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    Comm 120 Class Speech

    Hello,

    I am doing a speech about biking to work, and safety for my Comm 120 class I need statistics give em to me
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    First I would start with some proper grammer.

    "How Long Has it been sense you rode a bike?" should actually be
    "How Long have you ridden a bike."

    Or if you really prefer... change "sense" to "since."

    But frankly, it has been "since" yesterday that I have ridden a bike; but I have ridden bikes for well over 30 years. I "sense" that is what you really want to know.

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    Here's one: 90% of college-aged kids (18-24) will spend 85% of their time trying to get someone else to do their work.

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    LOL. 57% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanparrish
    Hello,

    I am doing a speech about biking to work, and safety for my Comm 120 class I need statistics give em to me
    Get a copy of Effective Cycling or go to John Forester's web site. Great source of faith based statistics. Perhaps some of our colleagues of the LCI persuasion can provide some more of same. The helmet promoters are another good source of same.

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    That's why 95% of all statistics are 50% BS. 65% of all percentages are about spots.

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    How about 50% of people don't like to help Thanks I Like To Bike. Maybe I should change my speech that cyclists need to be ran of the road 90% of the time in St Petersburg FL JK
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanparrish
    How about 50% of people don't like to help Thanks I Like To Bike. Maybe I should change my speech that cyclists need to be ran of the road 90% of the time in St Petersburg FL JK
    How about "many of us have been there done that..." at a time when the internet did not provide all the answers and one had to actually go to a library to do some research... and knew the meaning of the words "sense" and "since."

    Now quit surfing the net and get your homework done.

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    Here's some real help (not answers):

    Do a google search on "statisical abstract". Find the government website for this. In there, you can search foraccident statistics for all kinds of causes. You'll have to do some work, but you'll learn something about finding data.

    One hint: Since it's a government website, the data you get will at least be authoritative, not something supplied by an unknown person on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanparrish
    How about 50% of people don't like to help Thanks I Like To Bike. Maybe I should change my speech that cyclists need to be ran of the road 90% of the time in St Petersburg FL JK

    How 'bout: 1% of posters exhibit "road rage" while posting in an anonymous forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanparrish
    How about 50% of people don't like to help Thanks I Like To Bike. Maybe I should change my speech that cyclists need to be ran of the road 90% of the time in St Petersburg FL JK
    Now you got it. Just make up whatever statistics sound good and support your point. There are plenty of people who will believe anything if there are some stats (no matter how bogus) to support it. Don't believe it? Read BF.

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    Thanks Supcom for the help. TomCryar you cant take a joke
    The Ferrari ('05 Bianchi Forza) had a flat (Stupid Glass) the Japanese wagon ('77 Nishiki with Arkel Utility Basket) was in the body shop (On my bench being repainted...repent ye rust)
    so I took the SUV ( Cannondale V2000 Active 100SL)

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    I dont know what Im taking about 75% of the time.
    The other 25% I am usually wrong
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    Furthermore It isn't the fact of shaking a leg, and getting the work done it's that if I am going to be a mouthpiece for cyclists in a non-cyclist audience I figure I should get some input from other cyclists
    The Ferrari ('05 Bianchi Forza) had a flat (Stupid Glass) the Japanese wagon ('77 Nishiki with Arkel Utility Basket) was in the body shop (On my bench being repainted...repent ye rust)
    so I took the SUV ( Cannondale V2000 Active 100SL)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcryar
    How 'bout: 1% of posters exhibit "road rage" while posting in an anonymous forum.
    "road rage" would not be the proper term, 'net rage would probably fit better

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanparrish
    Thanks Supcom for the help. TomCryar you cant take a joke

    I can, and do, whenever I see one.

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    Well Do to some good research, and help from you guys I found out that the first Automobile accident occured between a cyclist and car in 1896 it happened in NY, and people that live in the District have the most car cyclist accidents 6.3 percent of the population
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    Here's some stats to chew on...

    http://neptune.spacebears.com/opine/helmets.html

    Here's a collection of links to stats and a pretty nice bike site...
    http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/survey/index.htm

    Do some reading and then put it all together.

    Good luck. BTW the most important part of doing a Comm 120 presentation is knowing your material well.

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    The recent NYC Report on bike safety/fatalities in the city had a fair amount of data in it. (The merits of the analysis and the conclussions drawn are debatable.)

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/download...ike-report.pdf

    (HINT: in the future, say you are doing a presentation...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by genec
    The most important part of doing a Comm 120 presentation is knowing your material well.
    Too True!

    I did a presentation on making the perfect Long Island Iced Tea. A+
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    I wonder why this is?
    In the model for riders 15 years of age and older, risk was also affected by riding
    surface. As in the children's model, the adult risk was higher on paved roadways. The risk on
    neighborhood streets was about 7 times the risk on bike paths and about 9 times the risk on
    unpaved surfaces. Moreover, the risk on major thoroughfares, the highest risk riding surface,
    was about 2.5 times the risk on neighborhood streets. As in the children's model, risk was
    higher for riders who lived in areas with greater population density. However, there was no
    significant difference in risk between daylight and non-daylight hours. Nor did rider gender
    independently affect the injury risk.
    http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/344.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanparrish
    Well when comparing the "hard surfaces" to the other surfaces... the other variable is that there are cars on those hard surfaces.

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    I thought we were always told that a intersection with traffic was more deadly then flowing with cars on the tarmac. I wish this drilled down into the causes of the accidents on the road
    The Ferrari ('05 Bianchi Forza) had a flat (Stupid Glass) the Japanese wagon ('77 Nishiki with Arkel Utility Basket) was in the body shop (On my bench being repainted...repent ye rust)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanparrish
    I thought we were always told that a intersection with traffic was more deadly then flowing with cars on the tarmac. I wish this drilled down into the causes of the accidents on the road
    If you are going to use statistics, get your definitions straight about what is being measured. Accidents and deadly are not synonymous.

    Also your previously quoted stats in post #21 on risk were based on accidents that only involved an ER visit, a loose definition that covers a very wide range of injury severities. People with minor and slight injuries are often treated at ER's due to unavailabilty of a private physician at the time or place of the accident. In fact there may be no injury as some uninjured accident "victims" are taken to ER's as a matter of routine to be checked out "just in case," or to prove no injuries occured. A far more useful stat from the study was that only 3% of the accident victims were admitted to the hospital; a far more significant metric if looking for an indicator of accident severity.

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    Ryan, when is your presentation?
    Inside me is a thin man dying to get out.
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