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    What Is A Cager?

    I see this term used a lot, often disparagingly. What does it mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper
    I see this term used a lot, often disparagingly. What does it mean?
    Ever use any search engines?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cager

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    Somebody in a car, isolated and having problems communicating with the people around him.

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    Trolling is NOT NICE. Especially here.

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    In the broadest sense, it's someone who drives a vehicle, such as a car, SUV or light truck, etc., that completely surrounds them with metal, glass, plastic, etc., as if they were in a cage.

    I first heard the term used in certain motorcycle circles over 30 years ago.

    Generally it's used to describe certain drivers who behave like idiots behind the wheel.

    I sometimes use the term as a faux surname to describe certain drivers, often Moron Cager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper
    I see this term used a lot, often disparagingly. What does it mean?


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    Someone who believes cyclists should stay in bike lanes?

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    View results from: Dictionary | Thesaurus | Encyclopedia | the Web

    Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
    cag‧er  /ˈkeɪdʒər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[key-jer] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

    –noun 1. Informal. a basketball player.
    2. Mining. a machine for putting cars on or off a cage.


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    [Origin: 1910–15; cage + -er1]
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    cager

    n : an athlete who plays basketball [syn: basketball player, basketeer]

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    A ridiculous term used by cyclists who can't understand why drivers won't treat them like equals.
    Non semper erit aestas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper
    I see this term used a lot, often disparagingly. What does it mean?

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    Which reminds me: In the derogatory sense of the word, some regions have more cagers per road user capita than others, i.e., here there are very few. When I was living out in SoCal, both times, there were very many. So many they even have problems sharing the road with each other.

    Here people are good enough drivers to understand that a bicycle is a legal vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterRun
    Which reminds me: In the derogatory sense of the word, some regions have more cagers per road user capita than others, i.e., here there are very few. When I was living out in SoCal, both times, there were very many. So many they even have problems sharing the road with each other.

    Here people are good enough drivers to understand that a bicycle is a legal vehicle.
    Maybe you should check your stats before you run your mouth next time.

    The trend of Florida having the worst bicycle/motor vehicle crash rates has continued. Similar to the previous years of analysis, Florida’s bicyclist fatality rate in 1998 was 0.66 per 100,000 population. This rate is more than twice the national average of 0.28 per 100,000. Even more alarming, in Hillsborough County the bicycle fatality rate was 1.08 per 100,000 which is almost four times the national average.

    Happy Florida Cycling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treespeed
    Maybe you should check your stats before you run your mouth next time.

    The trend of Florida having the worst bicycle/motor vehicle crash rates has continued. Similar to the previous years of analysis, Florida’s bicyclist fatality rate in 1998 was 0.66 per 100,000 population. This rate is more than twice the national average of 0.28 per 100,000. Even more alarming, in Hillsborough County the bicycle fatality rate was 1.08 per 100,000 which is almost four times the national average.

    Happy Florida Cycling.
    Perhaps that is because FL like AZ which also has higher rates is a great place to cycle year round.
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    Noone said there was going to be math involved!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noisebeam
    Perhaps that is because FL like AZ which also has higher rates is a great place to cycle year round.
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    According to the study it was a higher incidence of sidewalk cycling.

    But the weather argument hardly holds in a comparison of So Cal. Hello
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treespeed
    The trend of Florida having the worst bicycle/motor vehicle crash rates has continued. Similar to the previous years of analysis, Florida’s bicyclist fatality rate in 1998 was 0.66 per 100,000 population. This rate is more than twice the national average of 0.28 per 100,000. Even more alarming, in Hillsborough County the bicycle fatality rate was 1.08 per 100,000 which is almost four times the national average.

    Happy Florida Cycling.
    That's over the entire state. Now quote the stats for Wakulla County as compared to LA County, smart guy.

    People out there can't even drive in a little fog without having 60 car pile ups.

    Maybe you should check your stats before you run your mouth next time.
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    here is a paper on weather and fatality rates (ped and cycle)
    http://www.mcdot.maricopa.gov/bicycl...IPfatality.pdf

    I don't believe climate is the only factor, but there is no doubt it contributes.

    Data on rates:
    http://www.ewg.org/reports/bikes/congress.html

    "The national average bicycle fatality rate between 1986 and 1995 was 3.4 bicyclists per million individuals. In Florida, which had the highest bicycle fatality rate, this rate was more than twice as high - 8.8 bicyclists killed per million. After Florida, the five states with the highest fatality rates were Arizona (7.0), Louisiana (5.9), South Carolina (5.4), and North Carolina (4.5).

    Among large metropolitan areas, Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, Florida had the highest per capita bicyclist fatality rate -- 9.3 bicyclists per million. Other large metropolitan areas with bicycle fatality rates more than twice the national average included Miami-Hialeah (7.7), Phoenix (7.7), Fort Lauderdale- Hollywood-Pompano Beach (7.7) and Orlando (7.1). Four of the five metropolitan areas with the highest fatality rates for bicyclists were in Florida. The metropolitan areas with the highest bicycling fatality rates tend to be newer, sprawling, southern and western communities, where transportation systems are for now biased towards the car [ed 'cager' ]."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Treespeed
    A ridiculous term used by some cyclists who can't understand why drivers won't treat them like equals.
    +1, with my own modification in bold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noisebeam
    Perhaps that is because FL like AZ which also has higher rates is a great place to cycle year round.
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    So how do those rates compare to California... as So Cal is also great weather wise for year round cycling.

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    Aren't they just all those people driving by me?

    there are good cagers and BAD cagers and some downright malevolent cagers out there.


    why shouldn't 'cager' be considered appropos in the dialect of bicyclists? Colloquialisms, slang and specific terms are what add to the diversity of language.

    I vote to submit CAGER to the colloquial board and move it into common parlance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bekologist
    Aren't they just all those people driving by me?

    there are good cagers and BAD cagers and some downright manevolent cagers out there.


    why shouldn't 'cager' be considered appropos in the dialect of bicyclists? Colloquialisms, slang and specific terms are what add to the diversity of language.

    I vote to submit CAGER to the colloquial board and move it into common parlance.
    I second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterRun
    In the broadest sense, it's someone who drives a vehicle, such as a car, SUV or light truck, etc., that completely surrounds them with metal, glass, plastic, etc., as if they were in a cage.

    I first heard the term used in certain motorcycle circles over 30 years ago.

    Generally it's used to describe certain drivers who behave like idiots behind the wheel.

    I sometimes use the term as a faux surname to describe certain drivers, often Moron Cager.
    The highest Epithet a motorcyclist/cyclist can use is CLUELESS CAGER. There I was on the corner in a small town, and a guy in one of those $95,000 pick-it-up trucks, cuts off a biker on a Harley, leather pants, leather vest, beard, skin decorations, the whole nine yards, and what to my ears do I hear CLUELESS %$#@!%$ CAGER, from the biker.....

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    Here people are good enough drivers to understand that a bicycle is a legal vehicle.
    What people? According to everyone's favorite research tool (Wikipedia) the population of Walkulla was just over 22,000 in 2000. If you want to see some Florida drivers, move from lower Alabama to the east coast.
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