Another sad cycling tragedy.
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Another sad cycling tragedy.
https://www.bikeiowa.com/asp/hotnews/...sp?NewsID=1909
https://www.bikeiowa.com/asp/hotnews/...sp?NewsID=1913
There are no clear details right now. It is unknown whether or not Brown was riding as a VC or on the sidewalk & using the pedestrian walkway, etc.
But I am familiar with this intersection. A very busy one that requires a lot of attention & care when crossing. Even though I ride VC, there had been times where it was so busy I dismounted my bike & crossed as a pedestrian using the crosswalk & the crosswalk signal, then remounted my bike & continued on as a VC. It is not the safest intersection in Des Moines & is one of the busiest in the area.
https://www.bikeiowa.com/asp/hotnews/...sp?NewsID=1913
There are no clear details right now. It is unknown whether or not Brown was riding as a VC or on the sidewalk & using the pedestrian walkway, etc.
But I am familiar with this intersection. A very busy one that requires a lot of attention & care when crossing. Even though I ride VC, there had been times where it was so busy I dismounted my bike & crossed as a pedestrian using the crosswalk & the crosswalk signal, then remounted my bike & continued on as a VC. It is not the safest intersection in Des Moines & is one of the busiest in the area.
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Gads...Sorry to hear that N_C. Around here, if you're a ped or bike trying to cross at a crosswalk, good luck! Is there a traffic cam on that corner so we can see what you're talking about?
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Originally Posted by vrkelley
Gads...Sorry to hear that N_C. Around here, if you're a ped or bike trying to cross at a crosswalk, good luck! Is there a traffic cam on that corner so we can see what you're talking about?
She was travelling west. This is the busier side of SE 14th, untill you get past the commercial are & into the residential area.
About a block to the east it is really nice to ride. Residential streets & low traffic volume, 25 mph, etc.
SE 14ths is 4 lanes, ranges from 45 mph to 35 mph depending on where you're at on it. Park Ave. in thsi area is 35 mph, I think. At this intersection , on SE 14th, there are right turn lanes on both sides, that end so far up after it passes through the intersection. It is not uncommon for traffic to use these as right passing lanes with out any intention of turning right, then cut traffic off when they have to merge left as the lane is ending.
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The caught the bastard. You can run but you can't hide. Hope he gets life with out parole.
https://www.bikeiowa.com/asp/hotnews/...sp?NewsID=1916
https://www.bikeiowa.com/asp/hotnews/...sp?NewsID=1916
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11pm at a busy intersection.
The driver is an ass for driving away, but sometimes the cyclist should be responsible (and smart) enough to NOT ride in certain situations.
The driver is an ass for driving away, but sometimes the cyclist should be responsible (and smart) enough to NOT ride in certain situations.
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Originally Posted by cat4ever
11pm at a busy intersection.
The driver is an ass for driving away, but sometimes the cyclist should be responsible (and smart) enough to NOT ride in certain situations.
The driver is an ass for driving away, but sometimes the cyclist should be responsible (and smart) enough to NOT ride in certain situations.
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Originally Posted by cat4ever
11pm at a busy intersection.
The driver is an ass for driving away, but sometimes the cyclist should be responsible (and smart) enough to NOT ride in certain situations.
The driver is an ass for driving away, but sometimes the cyclist should be responsible (and smart) enough to NOT ride in certain situations.
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Originally Posted by cat4ever
11pm at a busy intersection.
The driver is an ass for driving away, but sometimes the cyclist should be responsible (and smart) enough to NOT ride in certain situations.
The driver is an ass for driving away, but sometimes the cyclist should be responsible (and smart) enough to NOT ride in certain situations.
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Originally Posted by chipcom
Maybe if you're a Cat 3.
I don't ride at night. People don't expect to see cyclists during the day, let well enough alone at night. I take my chances on the road, but I try and minimize my own stupidity (no night riding, wearing bright clothing, not riding where traffic is high, etc).
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Originally Posted by joejack951
Is there a reason why you believe cyclists should be "smarter" than to use busy roads at night?
Yeah, so they don't get run over in Iowa and N_C has to post about it on bikeforums.net.
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Originally Posted by cat4ever
I don't ride at night. People don't expect to see cyclists during the day, let well enough alone at night. I take my chances on the road, but I try and minimize my own stupidity (no night riding, wearing bright clothing, not riding where traffic is high, etc).
Seriously, I like riding at night...motorists can see me better and I can see them better.
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Originally Posted by cat4ever
Yeah, so they don't get run over in Iowa and N_C has to post about it on bikeforums.net.
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I was complimented not once but twice recently on my night visibility. (Although, to be fair, those are the only times ever.) I was wearing a flourescent yellow jacket with a reflective stripe, using a side bag with reflective piping (and maybe another on the other side, but I don't remember), a rear reflector, a red blinkie on the seat post, a larger red blinky clipped to my belt behind me, one plain reflective leg band and one blinking reflective leg band, and a 12W headlight. One compliment was from the person behind me while stopped for a light, as I was taking the lane. The other was from a vehicle going the other way on my street just as I was about to turn into my driveway.
So I think there's no reason not to ride at night if you are prepared visibility-wise.
Still, to flee the scene is just reprehensible. He must have known he hit her, if he bumped her rear tire.
So I think there's no reason not to ride at night if you are prepared visibility-wise.
Still, to flee the scene is just reprehensible. He must have known he hit her, if he bumped her rear tire.
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Originally Posted by cat4ever
I don't ride at night. People don't expect to see cyclists during the day, let well enough alone at night. I take my chances on the road, but I try and minimize my own stupidity (no night riding, wearing bright clothing, not riding where traffic is high, etc).
If you don't feel comfortable riding at night, then, that's fine. Why must you characterize it as stupid, I wonder. Some of us actually use our bikes to get to and fro, not just for recreational riding (although I find all riding to be fun). I don't feel stupid, and I don't feel I have to stay off the roads just because some drivers may be impaired or incompetent.
We cannot do much to avoid impaired drivers - they may be encountered at any time of day. For that matter, there isn't much to be done about incompetent drivers, either.
Statistically, I feel safe riding, whether at night or during the day.
You do what feels safe (or should say "smart") for you.
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Originally Posted by cat4ever
I don't ride at night. People don't expect to see cyclists during the day, let well enough alone at night. I take my chances on the road, but I try and minimize my own stupidity (no night riding, wearing bright clothing, not riding where traffic is high, etc).
If you feel riding at night makes you stupid, then I suggest you don't ride at night either. Riding at night gets me places I want to go after the sun has gone down so I do it.