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Old 01-31-07, 02:01 AM   #1
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Buzzing Pedestrians

What are peoples opinions on 'buzzing' pedestrians?

I ride in the city a lot, and every now and then I'll come across a pedestrian who is crossing the road diagonally, in my path, and with their back to me as I'm riding along my merry way. They will, of course, be totally oblivious to my presence (or that of any other traffic) as well. In this situation I will sometimes accelerate and swerve around their backs, then cut back in to my original line as tight as I can manage. I have brushed against peoples bags and flapping jackets when doing this,so that's how close I'm talking. And I'm also talking fast.

I'm guessing that this scares the crap out of most people who are stupid enough to put themselves in this position, and perhaps it might make them a little more cautious the next time they decide to cross the road (or, heaven forbid, open a car door). Perhaps it's not the most socially or morally conscientious manoeuvre, but it is a guilty little pleasure of mine sometimes when the opportunity presents itself.

I'd love to hear any other forms of cyclist retribution too.
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What are peoples opinions on 'buzzing' cyclists?

I drive in the city a lot, and every now and then I'll come across a cyclist who is crossing the road diagonally, in my path, and with their back to me as I'm driving along my merry way. They will, of course, be totally oblivious to my presence (or that of any other traffic) as well. In this situation I will sometimes accelerate and swerve around their backs, then cut back in to my original line as tight as I can manage. I have brushed against cyclists bags and flapping jackets when doing this,so that's how close I'm talking. And I'm also talking fast.

I'm guessing that this scares the crap out of most cyclists who are stupid enough to put themselves in this position, and perhaps it might make them a little more cautious the next time they decide to cross the road (or, heaven forbid, ride in the driving lane). Perhaps it's not the most socially or morally conscientious manoeuvre, but it is a guilty little pleasure of mine sometimes when the opportunity presents itself.

I'd love to hear any other forms of motorists retribution too.
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Old 01-31-07, 02:20 AM   #3
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In Oregon, you get a $242 ticket for not giving a ped 6 feet of space while you're turning into a marked or unmarked crosswalk. I'm sure the cops in downtown Portland will find some other reason to write you a traffic ticket if they catch you riding dangerously close to a ped in other circumstances, as they love to find reasons to write cyclists tickets here.

If you're made of money and are that big of a jerk, I guess you might as well go for it. We've got to make up these revenue shortfalls somehow, I imagine, and it seems you're just the person to help the government out with that.
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Old 01-31-07, 02:26 AM   #4
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/me thinks the OP is trolling for a bite
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I guess the thing you need to think about is what happens if you misjudge and hook the bag or jacket and go down taking the unsuspecting pedestrian with you.
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/me thinks the OP is trolling for a bite
You're right, of course, but I've got way too much PMS going on to ignore it. So it goes...
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My opinion of cyclists that buzz pedestrians is the same as my opinion of motorists who buzz cyclists.
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Old 01-31-07, 04:55 AM   #8
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/me thinks the OP is trolling for a bite
Maybe, but his only other post is not a troll post, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Buzzing pedestrians is dangerous. If they step the wrong way (or strike back), you could find yourself with a broken collarbone. It may be tempting, but it's still stupid.
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So, what would be your point in buzzing a pedestrian, and, why are you riding at such great speed if pedestrian or other combinations of traffic are so congested that you cannot allow more space to go around the pedestrian (on either side).

I agree with other responses that you are taking a dangerous risk - the pedestrian might stop unexpectedly, or drop one of those packages in your path - whatever.

I always find it annoying that auto drivers forget that the other option to speeding up to get around me is to slow down until they can pass safely. I approach pedestrians that I need to pass in the same manner. In short, I don't think highly of the maneuver you describe.

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So, he behaves like a dickhead and probably complains about drivers behaving like dickheads. Guess it takes all kinds to stuff up a world.

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Hopefully, one day the pedestrian will see you coming but won't let on until he/she throws his/her very large backpack/shoulder bag or other similar accoutrement under your front tire so as to watch you slide down the asphalt on your face. Then, walk up to you calmly and urinate upon your prone body.
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Old 01-31-07, 07:23 AM   #13
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What are peoples opinions on 'buzzing' cyclists?

I drive in the city a lot, and every now and then I'll come across a cyclist who is crossing the road diagonally, in my path, and with their back to me as I'm driving along my merry way. They will, of course, be totally oblivious to my presence (or that of any other traffic) as well. In this situation I will sometimes accelerate and swerve around their backs, then cut back in to my original line as tight as I can manage. I have brushed against cyclists bags and flapping jackets when doing this,so that's how close I'm talking. And I'm also talking fast.

I'm guessing that this scares the crap out of most cyclists who are stupid enough to put themselves in this position, and perhaps it might make them a little more cautious the next time they decide to cross the road (or, heaven forbid, ride in the driving lane). Perhaps it's not the most socially or morally conscientious manoeuvre, but it is a guilty little pleasure of mine sometimes when the opportunity presents itself.

I'd love to hear any other forms of motorists retribution too.

A good and fair call, Crosseyed, but if a cyclist is that oblivious to traffic then he will quickly learn to be more aware his surroundings. In that situation it might not only be a car unintentionally 'buzzing' him to teach the lesson.

Will the pedestrian even think twice about the encounter if I give him a comfortable, wide berth? Will it have any impact at all if I casually cruise around this idiot who could potentially be endangering my life by ignoring the existence of any traffic behind his back? Perhaps I could say "Watch the road, Sir!" as I glide by. Or perhaps the realisation that I could have been a heavy vehicle mashing him into the tarmac will make him more cautious next time. Perhaps he'll come out of the encounter with a greater hatred towards cyclists. I don't know.
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What are peoples opinions on 'buzzing' pedestrians?

I have brushed against peoples bags and flapping jackets when doing this,so that's how close I'm talking. And I'm also talking fast.

I'd love to hear any other forms of cyclist retribution too.
How about the time a pedestrian stiff-armed me and knocked me off my bike, sending me to the ER?

Believe me, it happened fast.

Plus I've had runners body-block me as I was walking. Really ticked me orf.
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Old 01-31-07, 08:34 AM   #16
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I know it's wrong, but it feels so right. *evil grin*

I would only ever do this to anyone who crossed past the center of the road without checking for traffic, or if it's a one way street, well... you should look towards the direction that traffic might come from before you step onto the road, right?

This is not a practice that I make a habbit of.
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People walk out in front of me all the time in parking lots. Peds are used to listening for motorized traffic and often make the (wrong) assumption that if they don't hear anything that nothing is there. It's an annoying but not unreasonable thing to do. As long as they aren't causing you to crash, why do you care? Just go around them. Your response is similar to motorists who won't change lanes to pass a cyclist on a 4 lane road and instead honk simply because they don't think the cyclist should be there.
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Peds in my area that assert their legal rights with little regard to their personal safety, usually end up as orange paint marks on the roadway left by the law enforcement investigation unit. It runs in cycles around here, people slowly forget and start returning to their poor crossing habits until there's another rash of ped fatalities. I just go around peds at a safe distance or just stop for them, since one of the reasons I bicycle is to save money, I do not want to get a ticket or have a lawsuit pending against me.

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In a parking lot I couldn't care less. I'd swerve around them and wouldn't say a word, just like I'd swerve around the constant stream of cars doing questionable and 'bike unfriendly' stuff in the city every day.

Maybe I'm out to start a new crusade. Cars vs. Bikes is the old one. Bikes vs. Pedestrians is my calling!

Seriously though, I would never buzz a pedestrian who wasn't being a total ******** idiot.
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I'm guessing the OP never got a cycling merit badge!
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Pedestrians have the right of way at all times. Your buzzing them to "teach them a lesson" only reveals your own ignorance of the law.

And even if you give a pedestrian what seems like ample space when passing beware of the chance they might stick an arm out. An arm is half the height of the body so a 6' man needs 3 feet passing clearance minimum.
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Also don't assume they are not aware of you, yes peds often don't see cyclists due to lack of noise clue to look, but even a quick glance or peripheral vision may pick up cyclist - but either they don't see it as a danger (narrow easy to manever vehicle which doesn't go that fast) or see but don't process.

I see similarities to when a cyclist is riding centerish in a narrow lane, or is merging across several lanes of traffic. I as a cyclist am very aware of surrounding traffic, but without communication back to other drivers, they may not think I am aware of them - this can lead to honking, buzzing, etc.

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What are peoples opinions on 'buzzing' pedestrians?

I ride in the city a lot, and every now and then I'll come across a pedestrian who is crossing the road diagonally, in my path, and with their back to me as I'm riding along my merry way. They will, of course, be totally oblivious to my presence (or that of any other traffic) as well. In this situation I will sometimes accelerate and swerve around their backs, then cut back in to my original line as tight as I can manage. I have brushed against peoples bags and flapping jackets when doing this,so that's how close I'm talking. And I'm also talking fast.

I'm guessing that this scares the crap out of most people who are stupid enough to put themselves in this position, and perhaps it might make them a little more cautious the next time they decide to cross the road (or, heaven forbid, open a car door). Perhaps it's not the most socially or morally conscientious manoeuvre, but it is a guilty little pleasure of mine sometimes when the opportunity presents itself.

I'd love to hear any other forms of cyclist retribution too.
This is one of the reasons you are supposed to have a bell or gong on your bike, and yelling "Excuse me", doesn't hurt either, nor does gearing down and slowing up a little. Often peds walking without looking are on one of those #@$!&*^ cell phones, and just not paying attention.

One thing I have noticed, that never used to happen is, your backing (your car) out of a parking space, and people walk around behind you, because they don't want to be slowed down the 5 seconds that it takes for you to get out of their way, heck I have seen them pick up speed to go around behind a car backing up. Of course it's your fault if you hit one.
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I have a room mate who does the same thing as the OP, but his favorite is to do it at 1-2am on friday and saturday when the bars are emptying out. He's a freaking idiot. He's going to hit some poor drunk girl some day and get his head kicked in by her drunk boyfriend, and he would totally deserve it. He aims to make contact with them even if they are just standing on the side of the road. He essentially dive bombs drunk people at night (even in winter). I don't ever ride with him now if I can avoid it.

I'm just waiting until he crashes himself really badly because thats the only way he will learn (He never believes anything anyone else tells him)
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Pedestrians have the right of way at all times. Your buzzing them to "teach them a lesson" only reveals your own ignorance of the law.
Pfft. As soon as I jump on my bike I am cruising the streets of limbo. I am neither pedestrian or motorist.
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