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    Another one down

    This is a local story about a bicyclist who died from injuries he received after being hit by a truck. I've ridden on that road a few times. I'm glad I didn't die.

    Edit: http://www.channel3000.com/news/10955665/detail.html

    Now with link!
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    Quite so.
    Doh!
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    Is this stuff for real?

    Hit and run, call later "umm I think I hit something"

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    Quote Originally Posted by derath
    Is this stuff for real?

    Hit and run, call later "umm I think I hit something"

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    My grandpa told my grandma one time he thought he might have hit someone while he was out. Sure enough, he clipped a pedestrian. He didn't drive after than, but i don't think he was charged with anything. Luckily, he's dead now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfheir
    My grandpa told my grandma one time he thought he might have hit someone while he was out. Sure enough, he clipped a pedestrian. He didn't drive after than, but i don't think he was charged with anything. Luckily, he's dead now.
    That is a very strange post


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    My guess is that anyone who leaves the scene is trying to hide something but who knows it's just another poorly written news article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfmckenna
    That is a very strange post


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    My guess is that anyone who leaves the scene is trying to hide something but who knows it's just another poorly written news article.

    Strange post indeed.


    And to your other point. I think some people are trying to hide something. Others are simply clueless, too drunk, too incoherent, too stupid, or otherwise out of it to realize they hit something or hit something more important than a rock.
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    My condolences to the family and loved ones of Dale Connors.

    The article says the crash occurred inside an underpass after dark (7:45 pm). I wonder if he had lights/reflectors, or whether he was riding "dark"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmet Head
    My condolences to the family and loved ones of Dale Connors.

    The article says the crash occurred inside an underpass after dark (7:45 pm). I wonder if he had lights/reflectors, or whether he was riding "dark"?
    I wondered that too. I don't ride over there, but the idea of getting hit from behind is so frightening that I'd like to think he was riding dark. At the same time, anyone riding at this time of year with conditions the way they are right now is likely well prepared for the conditions, so I find it hard to believe he would not have lights. Either way this is a sad day for cyclists, and a good reminder to everyone to be aware and to take all precautions necessary to be seen.

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    Sorry but I just dont buy it. I have come close to hitting cyclists dressed all in black and see them at the last minute, usually see something shiny on the bike. To hit a cyclist and still not see anything, not to mention the amount of noise there would be hitting someone, and to not stop. She may not be completely at fault for hitting him (not enough evidence to tell) but there should be something from leaving the scene. I can't believe anyone would hit something and keep driving unless they knew they were guilty of something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfmckenna
    That is a very strange post


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    My guess is that anyone who leaves the scene is trying to hide something but who knows it's just another poorly written news article.
    Derath asked, Is this for real?
    In response, I shared a similar anecdote that this kind of stuff is for real. I thought the conclusion would be drawn.
    To clarify, my grandpa is dead, not the pedestrian.
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    I extend my condolences to the family as well.

    I am somewhat confused how a driver could not realize she was approaching a vehicle and (possibly) overtaking the vehicle. Know what I mean? The driver said she thought ice had fallen off the overpass and that the ice had caused the damage but upon looking further realized there was more damage. Now, I appreciate one can experience a glancing blow and sometimes during winter weather there is a great deal more noise and shaking as we drive over snow and ice, but did the driver not connect the fact that she was (I presume) passing a cyclist and hearing noises or realizing there was damage to her vehicle? I've heard loud bangs where snow and ice have been caught under the frame of the car and stopped to see if I'd hit something hidden beneath the snow or done any damage. I just don't get it. Sigh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryA
    Sorry but I just dont buy it. I have come close to hitting cyclists dressed all in black and see them at the last minute, usually see something shiny on the bike. To hit a cyclist and still not see anything, not to mention the amount of noise there would be hitting someone, and to not stop. She may not be completely at fault for hitting him (not enough evidence to tell) but there should be something from leaving the scene. I can't believe anyone would hit something and keep driving unless they knew they were guilty of something.

    +1

    this was the crux of my other post. Granted there may be occasional times where someone really doesn't notice hitting something. But I don't buy this constant BS of hit and runs only to call later and explain you "thought you might have hit something"

    It seems that especially with cyclist collisions this has been a somewhat common scenario.

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    We had a case a year or two ago where someone ran over someone lying in the road at didn't stopped. In the end, they weren't charged with hit and run because they determine the someone was already dead when the drive in question hit him - somebody else had him first - that blow killed him.

    I wonder if something similar might have happened here, where the driver in question hit the cyclist after he was already down for one reason or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowandsteady
    Strange post indeed.


    And to your other point. I think some people are trying to hide something. Others are simply clueless, too drunk, too incoherent, too stupid, or otherwise out of it to realize they hit something or hit something more important than a rock.
    Did you ever stop to think that maybe the "offender" could also maybe just be shook up & scared there geneyus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_knob
    Did you ever stop to think that maybe the "offender" could also maybe just be shook up & scared there geneyus?

    Just shook up and scared would usually be cause for a pull over and "OMG" call. Similar to last week when my wife hit a deer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfheir
    Derath asked, Is this for real?
    In response, I shared a similar anecdote that this kind of stuff is for real. I thought the conclusion would be drawn.
    To clarify, my grandpa is dead, not the pedestrian.
    Dude! I have to ask this i just can't resist . Now in your sig , you state that if you hate your job the thing to do is drink yourself to death ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by derath
    Just shook up and scared would usually be cause for a pull over and "OMG" call. Similar to last week when my wife hit a deer.

    -D
    VERY nice BUT we don't live in a perfect world now do we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfheir
    Derath asked, Is this for real?
    In response, I shared a similar anecdote that this kind of stuff is for real. I thought the conclusion would be drawn.
    To clarify, my grandpa is dead, not the pedestrian.

    Yes, I figured that. I have just never heard of someone talk about a loved one as being luckily dead. Weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_knob
    Dude! I have to ask this i just can't resist . Now in your sig , you state that if you hate your job the thing to do is drink yourself to death ?
    No, I only support self medication thru alcohol consumption.

    Quote Originally Posted by slowandsteady
    Yes, I figured that. I have just never heard of someone talk about a loved one as being luckily dead. Weird.
    I didn't say he was loved.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_knob
    VERY nice BUT we don't live in a perfect world now do we?
    All cyclists should do everything they can to be visible at night. That being said there is still no excuse for hitting a cyclist while overtaking them, even if they are not covered in lights. If you are paying attention and have decent eyesight it should not happen. And there is certainly no excuse for hitting a cyclist hard enough to kill them and leaving the scene of the accident. I'm sure it was panic but it's no excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_knob
    VERY nice BUT we don't live in a perfect world now do we?

    Ok, we could go round and round with this all day. What I am trying to get at is this.

    In the last couple of years especially, it seems there has been this rise in hit and runs that end up with the person calling in later to report they "thought they might have hit something"

    I find it hard to believe this is actually the case. Personally I think people have found a loophole to the traditional hit and run.

    That isn't to say there are still times when someone actually doesn't realize they hit someone. But there are too many occurances of this these days IMO.

    -D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfheir
    No, I only support self medication thru alcohol consumption.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekorn
    All cyclists should do everything they can to be visible at night.
    Agreed.
    Quote Originally Posted by thekorn
    there is certainly no excuse for hitting a cyclist hard enough to kill them and leaving the scene of the accident. I'm sure it was panic but it's no excuse.
    No, i don't think it is right myself. Things are the way they are but when someone smashes into a "biker" (or any one else as far as that goes) & as they flip over the car & see them do a face plant on the tarmac in their rear view mirror that may change a view or 2.
    You sure do use the term "excuse" alot.
    well as far as i can "see" i am only here on earth for a brief visit.
    "Being said that", as one once said, "I don't wanna change the world & i don't want it to change me."
    go head on with your fanatical ideals & see if you make a difference.
    I believe not to long ago, there was an aggressive fanatical right wing advocate of safety & biking rights here in the area & he was struck & killed on the way to a city council meeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfheir

    I didn't say he was loved.
    LOL

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