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View Poll Results: which collective seems more pro-bike?
the american dream coalition and john forester. 3 7.50%
momentum planet, a magazine about self propulsion. 14 35.00%
i want chocolate before i respond to this poll. 16 40.00%
this poll is a communist plot to limit my bicycling rights. 16 40.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-19-07, 12:46 AM   #1
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which seems more pro-cycling?

Which of these collective efforts is more pro-bicycling?

www.americandreamcoalition.org - which john forester is part and parcel of?

or www.momentumplanet.ca , a canadian consortium of sorts?

which of these two seem more with the spirit of modern bicycling, the american dream coalition, or the folks at momentum magazine?

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Old 02-19-07, 01:11 AM   #2
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damned commie poll!!
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Old 02-19-07, 07:46 AM   #3
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I love these polls bek, please keep them up. But maybe you should set them to show who voted for what. Just to make it more fun.
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Old 02-19-07, 09:03 AM   #4
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Although bike routes are not a priority during the initial days following a storm, they should be cleared or at least receive cursory salting
WTF? Cursory salting? Would you like fries with that? I say either plow or do nothing, throwing salt on top snow without removal makes it harder to ride, not easier. Sorry, I am already off topic. Not a bad e-rag otherwise. But chocolate takes it again.
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Old 02-19-07, 10:29 AM   #5
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its an actual print magazine as well, ghettocruiser. like, 72 pages last issue I saw.
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I still ain't got my chocolate from the last two polls, white man.
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I vote for the Candian web site. Anybody who has on the front page something about the evils of plastic is ok with me. I hate plastic. There should be a global permanent ban on that scourge.

Ooops. Off-topic sorry. But the anti-plastic article is also about chocolate, so that makes it sort of ok.

P.S. My Valentines Day chocolate is almost all gone. It wasn't a 2lb box after all. It was less than a pound. I don't want anymore so I voted for Canada.
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I've got to go with the Momentum Planet pub. The top subject on the American Dream Coalition website shows how out of touch with reality they are. If they are promoting single family home developments, they must know of open space in San Jose that developers don't. To criticise a community for practicing smart growth, when the community has no more open space for anything else, shows a relative lack of cognizance. The only places around San Jose which can have single home build-up are outside of San Jose's limits, which means they have no control over them.
The paragraph is also wrong in that trips on mass transit have increased(according to local papers), and will continue to follow gas prices in an upward direction.
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Gentlemen, I just want everyone to be aware that if this thread starts going to the dogs, it will be moved to Politics & Religion.
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Now, I'm not expressing a single opinion on this until Bek shows us the chocolate! At least 70% cacao, please.
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Now, I'm not expressing a single opinion on this until Bek shows us the chocolate! At least 70% cacao, please.
YEAH! What she said!!!
Chocolate...chocolate...chocolate.....
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Now, I'm not expressing a single opinion on this until Bek shows us the chocolate! At least 70% cacao, please.
Who's going to to let the dogs out, Donna? this is a simple comparison poll between two collectives. One has John Forester as a speaker, and one is a bit more bicycling proletariat, in my opinion....

HOWEVER, as per your request.......

Lindt 70% excellence Dark under the chocolate on the left, and Ghirardelli 72% midnight dark on the right...

but every time I try to upload some actual chocolate, I've completely ruined a CD-ROM drive in the process! going on my third external drive now, for you kids.....
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Did you make that ADC web site up yourself? Outside of a White House press conference, it's possibly the weirdest, most out-of-touch thing I've ever seen...
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I've eaten plenty of chocolate over the holiday weekend, so I voted for the Commie conspiracy theory. I long for the simplicity of The Cold War...
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I cant wait to get on some of those new American Dream Toll roads on my bike! There will be so few cars on them, that they will be great for long rides to nowhere.

Give me concrete, rebar and SUVs any day! Those are the true things that define what it is to be an American! Well that is in addition to gas, ice cream, cigarettes and the Virgin Mary.

Go Mon Fayette Trollway, go--

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/42/42051.html
Fayette County, Pennsylvania
Population, percent change, April 1, 2000 to July 1, 2005 -1.7%
Total PA Pop up 1.2% same period.

I want chocolate too! Swiss.

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I've eaten plenty of chocolate over the holiday weekend, so I voted for the Commie conspiracy theory. I long for the simplicity of The Cold War...
With all the recent missile shield posturing, you might get your wish!
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