Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Advocacy & Safety Cyclists should expect and demand safe accommodation on every public road, just as do all other users. Discuss your bicycle advocacy and safety concerns here.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-24-07, 03:48 PM   #1
jbarros
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Bikes:
Posts: 242
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Pro Bike, Pro Car?

Hi everyone,

I'm kinda new here, and I've been reading a bit and trying to lurk around before coming on and making an idiot of myself, but I suppose now's as good a time as any

I've been reading about the fight against sprawl, and living 48 miles from my work in a spread out town (hopefully remedying that at the end of my lease) I can understand that completely.

However, I've noticed that alot of the "cycling advocacy" seems to be less about promoting cycling and more about fighting driving.

Before I got my car (just bought one 4 months ago) I rode motorcycles to work for 6 years. If I take public transport, it's about 3 hours each way (to work 9, makes it a 15 hour day) vs about 90 minutes round-trip on the motorcycle. I got a motorcycle because it was inexpensive, easy on gas and the environment, I didn't have to deal with traffic (lane splitting is legal in CA, and safer everywhere) etc.

Now that I've decided to suck it up and at least try commuting again via public transport, except this time with the bicycle to get me to and from the train, I'm looking at the state of my town and how it's layed out and the way most drivers drive, and wondering what I can do to change this.

I've never thought that straight up confrontation with a larger group was the best idea, at least for me, so I'm trying to collect my thoughts before talking to the planning division and city council, in a way that shows how making a town that has better public transport and is more bicycle friendly is also better for those who drive.

Obviously, it cuts down on congestion.

Obviously, it helps the environment.

Obviously, for a town which is trying to attract yuppie families (homes from the $800,000's) a good bicycle infrastructure could be seen as being better/safer for children who roam around on bicycles, as well as for families who want to ride together.

What else can I throw into the mix to help demonstrate the importance of bicycle friendly infrastructure (as a concept, regardless of if it's wider lanes, or bike paths, or bike lanes, looking for really basic advocacy concepts, not which method to go with at this point)

I know this is going to be a long fight, and I'm hoping to win people over to the cause early, and then as new areas are built out (they're building here ALL THE TIME) hope that they'll be built with bicycles in mind.

Who's had success planting these seeds in their community?

What did you do?

Thanks

-- James
jbarros is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-07, 04:18 PM   #2
Platy
Dare to be weird!
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Austin TX
Bikes: Hybridized 1970s Coppi road bike; Townie city cruiser
Posts: 1,991
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The way I would spin the issue is that you can't attract the most desirable kind of employers to town unless you have a good quality of life. Cost cutting employers in declining industries may be impressed by an ultra thrifty local government and an exploitable pool of cheap untrained labor, but the rising stars of business expect more.
Platy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-07, 04:36 PM   #3
dobber
Perineal Pressurized
 
dobber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: In Ebritated
Bikes:
Posts: 6,557
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbarros
However, I've noticed that alot of the "cycling advocacy" seems to be less about promoting cycling and more about fighting driving.
Some people need to have a bad guy to blame.
__________________
This is Africa, 1943. War spits out its violence overhead and the sandy graveyard swallows it up. Her name is King Nine, B-25, medium bomber, Twelfth Air Force. On a hot, still morning she took off from Tunisia to bomb the southern tip of Italy. An errant piece of flak tore a hole in a wing tank and, like a wounded bird, this is where she landed, not to return on this day, or any other day.
dobber is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:50 PM.