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Old 02-27-07, 04:35 PM   #1
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NHTSA Bicycle Safety Video

Found this on a British cycling newsgroup (uk.rec.cycling):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdrrxIpQpt4

Excellent video, althogh they do get a little carried away about helmets.
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Found this on a British cycling newsgroup (uk.rec.cycling):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdrrxIpQpt4

Excellent video, althogh they do get a little carried away about helmets.
The video itself has one really bad feature, the video and sound are not in synch, which detracts from the message of the video.
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The video itself has one really bad feature, the video and sound are not in synch, which detracts from the message of the video.
It's fine on the original dvd, and even this youtube version is in synch. Maybe you need a faster internet connection?

It's really an overview of LAB Road 1 course content, which is based on the original Effective Cycling material from John Forester.
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I'd consider that video far from excellent. Way too much emphasis on something that won't keep you safe at all if you're out riding like an idiot (that something is a helmet). Not nearly enough emphasis on being aware of traffic around you and proper position within a lane. There's even a shot of a guy turning left from the far right side of a left turn lane. At least they didn't show the cyclists swerving around an opened car door (they were positioned far enough away that it wasn't an issue).
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I don't like the left turn example - the cyclist is in the far right lane sharing position when he/she should probably be in a lane controlling position.
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Hey Joe, I didn't see your post before I posted mine about the left turn!

Great minds...
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It's fine on the original dvd, and even this youtube version is in synch. Maybe you need a faster internet connection?

It's really an overview of LAB Road 1 course content, which is based on the original Effective Cycling material from John Forester.
Can't be the connection, it's high speed DSL...
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Wogsterca, how far off do the audio and video seem to you?
In the scenes where Selene is shown, her words are in synch with her lips for me.
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I liked the emphasis on following traffic laws and acting like a vehicle while you're on the road. That's a concept that too many cyclists around here have trouble with. The video was clearly aimed at the novice cyclist, or an adult who hasn't cycled since childhood, and it cleared up a lot of issues that those two groups frequently have trouble with.
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Wogsterca, how far off do the audio and video seem to you?
In the scenes where Selene is shown, her words are in synch with her lips for me.
It's really bad at one point near the end....
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I agree that the left turn example was bad. Ironically, the video ended up showing why it's a bad idea to be far enough to either side to share a lane as you are preparing to turn. But the clearly didn't mean to show a bad example.
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things like this should areflect a bit more reality than a party line of p.c.; and bbe part of mandatory training for drivers, so they know what the heck they're involved with.
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I don't like the left turn example - the cyclist is in the far right lane sharing position when he/she should probably be in a lane controlling position.
While pausing the YouTube video at 4:59, that LTOL looks to be about as wide as the through traffic lane shown at 5:01 (where the two cyclists are in the far right lane sharing position of a through lane). Not sharing one while sharing the other is, IMHO, more personal preference than anything else.

BTW, did anyone notice (at 5:01) what the car further up the road on the right is stradling?
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