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    Dominatrikes sbhikes's Avatar
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    Maybe THIS topic should be moved to the other forum. Any other forum, actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes
    Maybe THIS topic should be moved to the other forum. Any other forum, actually.
    No, this topic should be closed & removed. Or at the very least un-stuck from it's sticky position in the forum so it can fall to the bottom & off the page eventually. It never should have been posted. It should have needed to be posted in the first place.

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    I think if would be better if it offered free pie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom
    I think if would be better if it offered free pie.
    Free pie and the ability of everyone to act like adults without the need for 3rd party moderation. I prefer pumpkin
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    The Snohomish Pie Company has a LOT of bike parking out front.

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    I would make my family lemon meringue recipe (tart!) and share if it would help calm things down any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnamb
    I would make my family lemon meringue recipe (tart!) and share if it would help calm things down any.
    What if I don't like meringue? It upsets my stomach.

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    Then I would highly recommend the Snohomish Pie Company. You can get any flavor you want there.
    "Real wars of words are harder to win. They require thought, insight, precision, articulation, knowledge, and experience. They require the humility to admit when you are wrong. They recognize that the dialectic is not about making us look at you, but about us all looking together for the truth."

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    Quote Originally Posted by deputyjones
    Free pie and the ability of everyone to act like adults without the need for 3rd party moderation. I prefer pumpkin
    You're so misguided. If you had any sense at all, you'd know that blueberry pie is the only pie...
    If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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    March 14 was pi day. Made me want a tart with a diameter of 1 foot and a circumference of 3.14... feet. A pi pie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bekologist
    . . . A certain poster really stunts and ******* the Advocacy and Safety potential of this forum.
    I agree, but I bet we disagree on which poster causes the most problems.

    Let's see how this new subforum works. And I hope the pie was good.


    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Cyril
    March 14 was pi day. Made me want a tart with a diameter of 1 foot and a circumference of 3.14... feet. A pi pie.
    If you missed pi day, you can celebrate British pi day on 22/7. Never miss an excuse for pie. Why do I ride? So I can eat as much pie as I want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Cyril
    March 14 was pi day. Made me want a tart [snip]
    'Nuff said.

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    Is Boston Creme a pie or a cake?

    I like cherry pie. Boysenberry is good, too.
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    chocolate pie, pecan pie, chess pie...mmmmm!
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    Personally I prefer cheescake over pie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N_C
    Personally I prefer cheescake over pie.
    Hmmm. I never thought of you as a contrarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian
    Hmmm. I never thought of you as a contrarian.
    I should have said unless I'm riding RAGBRAI. Then it is all the pie I can eat. That may be why the rest of the year I prefer cheescake, I eat way to much pie on RAGBRAI.
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    My question is, why the hell are folks complaining to the mods so much?
    Nothing in A&S (that I've seen) is so abusive as to warrant tattle-tailing. People disagree, sometimes vehemently. So what? I like a stirred pot; otherwise all the scum floats to the top*.

    * props to Edward Abbey who originally quoted:
    "Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum floats to the top."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
    My question is, why the hell are folks complaining to the mods so much?
    IMO because several posters believe that their sacred cows should never be subjected to criticism, let alone gored. In their scheme, all such "disrespect" is considered a personal insult worthy of whining and complaining to the mods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
    IMO because several posters believe that their sacred cows should never be subjected to criticism, let alone gored. In their scheme, all such "disrespect" is considered a personal insult worthy of whining and complaining to the mods.
    So you think HH is overflowing the complaint department?
    I tend to disagree. He might be dogmatic, but he doesn't seem to be thin-skinned. (as evidenced by his tenacity)

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    Reading this thread confirms so many things I had been wondering about.

    Good stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
    So you think HH is overflowing the complaint department?
    I tend to disagree. He might be dogmatic, but he doesn't seem to be thin-skinned. (as evidenced by his tenacity)
    A couple of his pals, particularly the new one from SF and probably the old one with the hang up about bike lane hysteria. But I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
    IMO because several posters believe that their sacred cows should never be subjected to criticism, let alone gored. In their scheme, all such "disrespect" is considered a personal insult worthy of whining and complaining to the mods.
    In all fairness, there are plenty of members that don't take sides, but don't like the way many of you interact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian
    In all fairness, there are plenty of members that don't take sides, but don't like the way many of you interact.
    Oh I am sure you are right. Some of our BF friends in several sub forums are all for one big support group hugging each other with the approved conventional wisdom and nicey-nice silly talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian
    In all fairness, there are plenty of members that don't take sides, but don't like the way many of you interact.
    ...and keep away from the debate or the forums in general because of they way the posts go.

    It's just not worth wasting too much sleep over the debate if it's not the ideas that are objected to, but the posters that are being objectionable.

    A forum is only as good as it's members. For me, it's teetering on the brink on weather to spend time and effort here or not.

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