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Old 08-13-07, 01:01 PM   #1
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"Put on your helmet A-hole!"

I just got back from lunch and I was riding on the bike path on my way to Wendy's to get a garden salad. As I'm riding three guys are coming towards me at a slower speed. I was traveling pretty fast since I only get 30 minutes. The bike path is about 5 feet wide and they were riding three across. As I get closer I move all the way to the right but the three guys don't move. I'm within 10 feet of them and they are still not moving! I yell "EXCUSE ME!!!" but they still don't move! I had to jump off the path and into the brush (3 - 6 inch grass and bushes). As I go around them one guy yells "Put on your helmet a-hole!" They all have laugh...

Now, I do where a helmet most of the time, but when I'm just hitting the bike path, I usually don't. Either way, who are they to tell me what to do and almost cause me to have an accident. I'm guessing they were trying to make me crash so they could prove something about the helmet. If I wasn't at work on my lunch, I would have stopped and said something, but they are not worth my time/job.

I've been away from riding for about 5 years and I just started back up again, things like this just make me sour...
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Sounds more like they were just jerks who wanted to see if they could force you off the path.
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game of chicken...and you lost.

next time, grab your helmet and do a full on sprint directly at them.
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game of chicken...and you lost.

next time, grab your helmet and do a full on sprint directly at them.
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No really, I'd have probably just flipped them off over my shoulder and kept going. Who cares what they think?
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Old 08-13-07, 03:04 PM   #5
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I just got back from lunch and I was riding on the bike path on my way to Wendy's to get a garden salad....
WE DO CHICKEN RIGHT!
If they only knew where you had been. Don't get sour. Punks will be punks.
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What a bunch of jerks. 3 abreast on a 5' bike path? :O
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... or just stop, across the path, and put your foot down (literally and figuratively).

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... or just stop, across the path, and put your foot down (literally and figuratively).

That's what I'd suggest... if there's a next time.
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... or just stop, across the path, and put your foot down (literally and figuratively).

That's what I do when joggers refuse to share the bike lane.
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These are the situations where I am glad to be a clyde. At 290, anyone blocking the bike path in front of me is going to get a lesson in physics rather quickly.
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First, to get this out of the way, I am a bit of an ahole roadie jerk. Sue me.

If people are hogging the entire path ahead walking toward me, I first yell out "Heads Up!" loud. If they want to F with me after that, I just put my head down and look at my cranks while staying as far right as I possibly can. Maybe a foot from the edge. My average speed is 23 mph. That's gonna really hurt if they don't yield. And they can plainly see that I am not looking. They ALWAYS move. So far anyway!

If the knuckleheads are playing "hands across the path for peace" facing away from me, I yell "HEADS UP" loud as I can two or three times. If they are plugged into their iPod, or want to F with me....fine. I maintain that average of 23 and brush them. Sometimes right between two of them and brush them both. Often, they scream in surprise like little girls and jump out of their shoes. But they start paying attention!

The path that I speak of is not a park, it is a fitness path. It's not technically for strolling or dog walking. Especially not for standing around! I am fine with anyone using the path as long as they act like they would on any roadway and pay freaking attention! There is room enough for everyone with courtesy.

I am so used to putting my head down for oncoming peds who I know are seeing me, that one day this happened: Two of us were doing a weekend bike tour - panniers, the whole deal. I was leading the way, my friend was just a few feet behind me on a two-lane road. An oncoming pickup truck with a young male driving and female riding shotgun approached us at high speed. As he neared us he crossed the center line - on purpose - put the driver's side wheels in the dirt on our side of the road and came at us head-on. I just put my head down and rode the fog line. My friend (who was looking for a soft spot to bail off the road) told me that as soon as I put my head down the driver steered back into his lane.

I do not recommend this behavior. I am a jerk. But as for your three path-hogs....it would not be the first time I showed someone the bottom of one of my SiDIs or the top of my helmet.
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Wow. I'm relieved I don't live in Louisiana. It sounds like no place to be an imperfect human being.
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These are the situations where I am glad to be a clyde. At 290, anyone blocking the bike path in front of me is going to get a lesson in physics rather quickly.
Hm.. Sounds like your bringing the automotive arms race to bicycling
I will admit that at a similar weight with a full loaded touring bike front/rear panniers and sweat pouring off my face even in mid winter people hurridly get out of my way. The OP made me start rethinking my anti JAB device.
I have tons of these in my yards and there is a rather nice harvest coming in. A perfect bicycle accessory for those king of the road/path cyclists.

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Situations like that remind you why frame pumps are a good thing.
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Where they wearing helmets?
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Where they wearing helmets?
Yes, and elbow and knee pads.
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First, to get this out of the way, I am a bit of an ahole roadie jerk. Sue me....
For what it's worth, I don't think you're a jerk, unless you're buzzing the poor innocents staying on their side of the path. I generally have the same frustrations with the same sorts of people you do. My favorite right now is some guy that seems to run every day during my commute, on the wrong side of the street (in the street), right at me. Apparently he expects me to veer into traffic. So I pass him pretty close (I think he mainly annoys me because there are fantastic running paths 50 feet from the street he runs on). Last time, he decided to dart back and forth a couple of times for fun. So I totally understand where you're coming from, there are morons out there, and I don't feel like I should have to move aside to accomodate them.

But if I'm to offer some unsolicited advice (and I always do! ), I'd say that in most collisions, with anything, the cyclist will come out on the bad side. If those peds you're buzzing step 6 inches sideways, they probably won't be hurt much but you could lose control and eat some road.

As someone who ate some road a couple of weeks ago (though for unrelated reasons)...it ain't fun!
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Apparently he expects me to veer into traffic.
Yep ... same thing happens on Wilson Blvd during the commute home.

... without the zig-zagging.
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My favorite right now is some guy that seems to run every day during my commute, on the wrong side of the street (in the street), right at me. Apparently he expects me to veer into traffic. So I pass him pretty close (I think he mainly annoys me because there are fantastic running paths 50 feet from the street he runs on).
Why not plan ahead, merge into the traffic lane to go around him, and then move back over once you are past him? Isn't that what we expect motorists to do? I don't remember hearing when cyclists were told that they now own the right side of the road. I'm sure the runner has a perfectly good reason why he wants to run on the street and not the path, and "just because" is a good enough reason in my opinion.
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Why not plan ahead, merge into the traffic lane to go around him, and then move back over once you are past him? Isn't that what we expect motorists to do? I don't remember hearing when cyclists were told that they now own the right side of the road. I'm sure the runner has a perfectly good reason why he wants to run on the street and not the path, and "just because" is a good enough reason in my opinion.
He's on the wrong side, and there's a soft grassy shoulder so he could get over if he were courteous enough to do so. I have enough room to pass him without hitting him, if he's not willing to budge, I'm not either.

And yes, when I occasionally run on the wrong side of the street, I get out of the way of oncoming traffic.
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Now, I do where a helmet most of the time, but when I'm just hitting the bike path, I usually don't. Either way, who are they to tell me what to do and almost cause me to have an accident.
They were just participating in our countries new national past time, telling other people what to do. I realized this the other day when I was coming home on one of those rare occasions I didn't have a helmet on. This wank pulls up next to me in his Mercedes SUV and says "you need a helmet" and then rolls off. I was stunned. At what point in this country did we decide it was ok to just pull up to strangers and tell them how to live?
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My favorite right now is some guy that seems to run every day during my commute, on the wrong side of the street (in the street), right at me.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the geometry here...but if he's running right at you, sounds like he's on the correct side of the street. Pedestrians (including runners) are supposed to travel facing traffic.

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Apparently he expects me to veer into traffic.
Sounds reasonable to me. He's supposed to stay near the edge of the road; you've got the whole lane (and adjacent same-direction lanes if they exist) to ride in. No reason to "veer", though, unless you're being a jerk and playing chicken. Pedestrians are usually visible a block or more in advance; there's plenty of room to merge left and pass 'em without even slowing down. On the rare occasion that this isn't possible...I slow down. Same thing I expect motorists to do for me if necessary.

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So I pass him pretty close (I think he mainly annoys me because there are fantastic running paths 50 feet from the street he runs on).
Which makes me wonder if your post is satire, and I was too dense to get that till now (even with a user name that translates to "troll"...) If you're serious, then you're acting exactly like those jackass cagers who brag about buzzing cyclists because there's "a perfectly good bike path" in the vicinity.
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He's on the wrong side, and there's a soft grassy shoulder so he could get over if he were courteous enough to do so.
If he's running toward you (against traffic) then he's on the right side of the road. Pedestrians have the right of way. It would be courteous for him to jump up on the shoulder since it's easier for him to do so than you merging into traffic, but then again he doesn't have to and shouldn't be expected to either.

I agree - your attitude toward pedestrians sounds like a drivers' attitude toward cyclists.
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Well they don't know what they're talking about. Your a-hole is no place for a helmet. I'd suggest your head is a better place for it

Funny this should come up though. Yesterday I had to commute without helmet, which I had forgotten to retrieve from the car. Stopped at a red light, along with a mother & child on the sidewalk, we both exclaim "unbelieveable" as we witness two cars try to run the same red and almost collide. Then she comments, politely, "and you with no helmet" Of course there was nothing I could say...

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