Wayfaring markings on pavement
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Wayfaring markings on pavement
I was wondering if there are any examples of pavement markings to indicate bike route destinations, for example right turn for so and so park and go straight for so and so city. (pics if you have em, please.)
Oversimplified but we have some problems with the visibility of the green bike route signs amongst all the sign clutter in the city and the distinctive trail logo for the route does not stand out.
Oversimplified but we have some problems with the visibility of the green bike route signs amongst all the sign clutter in the city and the distinctive trail logo for the route does not stand out.
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Yes. Portland is full of these.
And these.
And these.
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Wow!! Those are really nice signs in Portland. Portland must be a very bike friendly town. I've never seen anything like it here in Los Angeles County. We do have bike signs marking scenic bike routes but they do not have any other discription on them.
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Thanks Donna. That’s a nice wayfaring sign, though it does not tell me how far NE Portland is.
Does anyone have a wayfaring sign that they like better?
Does anyone have a wayfaring sign that they like better?
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I think signs are great, but sometimes it takes a cyclist with an adventurous spirit to discover just how many great detours and scenic routes there are, and they aren't all marked.
(Discovery is half the fun!)
One thing I've found is that most motorists have a familiar route they follow, and know very little about side streets and detours (unless there is a simple grid pattern of streets.) As a cyclist, I've discovered I know more about every possible route from X to Y to Z than any motorist. I have tracked so many neighborhoods that I might be an authority...
(Discovery is half the fun!)
One thing I've found is that most motorists have a familiar route they follow, and know very little about side streets and detours (unless there is a simple grid pattern of streets.) As a cyclist, I've discovered I know more about every possible route from X to Y to Z than any motorist. I have tracked so many neighborhoods that I might be an authority...
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I think signs are great, but sometimes it takes a cyclist with an adventurous spirit to discover just how many great detours and scenic routes there are, and they aren't all marked.
(Discovery is half the fun!)
One thing I've found is that most motorists have a familiar route they follow, and know very little about side streets and detours (unless there is a simple grid pattern of streets.) As a cyclist, I've discovered I know more about every possible route from X to Y to Z than any motorist. I have tracked so many neighborhoods that I might be an authority...
(Discovery is half the fun!)
One thing I've found is that most motorists have a familiar route they follow, and know very little about side streets and detours (unless there is a simple grid pattern of streets.) As a cyclist, I've discovered I know more about every possible route from X to Y to Z than any motorist. I have tracked so many neighborhoods that I might be an authority...
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True, but those little circles on the streets are very handy when you're coming home from a doctor's appointment in a cold, November rainstorm through an unfamilar neighborhood.
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That's so true. One time this guy came to look bike I was selling because he wanted to start commuthing by bike. Anway, he asked for advice on how he should get to work and rattled off 3 possible routes for a 7 mile trip that included 5-10 streets each. He was pretty surprised at how complicated they were (and that I knew the routes my memory). I explained that after a couple of years you figure out what makes a good route and that one street is rarely best for an entire trip.
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portland has nice signs, but looks like slow riders
On the adventure, Every time I'm in a new area I jump in the truck or on the bike and wander around to see what I find. Know so many different ways to the same place it's confusing for people who ride with me sometimes. Some of the best rides I've been on were from getting 'lost' I use 'lost' as meaning taking new streets or trails that I'm not familiar with not actualy getting lost, (can honestly say that I've never been truly lost)
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On the adventure, Every time I'm in a new area I jump in the truck or on the bike and wander around to see what I find. Know so many different ways to the same place it's confusing for people who ride with me sometimes. Some of the best rides I've been on were from getting 'lost' I use 'lost' as meaning taking new streets or trails that I'm not familiar with not actualy getting lost, (can honestly say that I've never been truly lost)
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The signs are timed for a "no sweat pace" of 8 mph. So if you travel faster, you know you'll get there in a shorter time.
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I think signs are great, but sometimes it takes a cyclist with an adventurous spirit to discover just how many great detours and scenic routes there are, and they aren't all marked.
One thing I've found is that most motorists have a familiar route they follow, and know very little about side streets and detours (unless there is a simple grid pattern of streets.) As a cyclist, I've discovered I know more about every possible route from X to Y to Z than any motorist. I have tracked so many neighborhoods that I might be an authority...
One thing I've found is that most motorists have a familiar route they follow, and know very little about side streets and detours (unless there is a simple grid pattern of streets.) As a cyclist, I've discovered I know more about every possible route from X to Y to Z than any motorist. I have tracked so many neighborhoods that I might be an authority...
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Agreed... but... we are talking about 'bicycle' streets in my town. While we all agree that every street is a bicycle street, we also all agree that heavy truck routes on narrow streets + bikes don't mix so well - so there are instances where we are discussing markings and signage denoting 'preferred' bike routes, both E-W and N-S in town... specifically laid out to get cyclists to the same destinations as drivers - but also accepting that we should probably separate them from heavy truck traffic. Our 'official' bicycle streets for commuting in and out of town will run parallel to major traffic routes - but separate from state signed truck routes.
We're looking at this as the town is rewriting their transportation plan. This includes quite a bit of verbage on 'complete' streets, and highlights many that need work to achieve the goals.
We have smaller signs similar to Portland's in some locations, marking how far to University, Lakefront, Ped Mall, etc. They are handy, but not consistent enough in application to be meaningful.
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Chicago has some signs like these: .
Often just giving you the direction of a destination, but many times it does have the distance. Nothing marked on the pavement that I've ever seen though, anywhere.
Often just giving you the direction of a destination, but many times it does have the distance. Nothing marked on the pavement that I've ever seen though, anywhere.
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This article and accompanying photo gallery highlights wayfaring markings in Vancouver, B.C.
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Thanks Donna for all your help. I’m still working on a way to get those Portland dots here (those are going to take some convincing which may take awhile.) In the meantime I think we are going to get what straightedge posted.
We went out and took a photo survey last week of signage and RR Xing issues and when the photographer post the images I’ll post something here so you can see what I am up against.
We went out and took a photo survey last week of signage and RR Xing issues and when the photographer post the images I’ll post something here so you can see what I am up against.