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    Cyclist yeild to cars..not the othe other way around

    ..lets try this again..

    I ride facing the traffic 99.9% of the time and this allows me the greatest possible safety margin for myself.. i watch head on the approaching traffic and move aside when they seem unwilling to move even an inch ..some actually move a little towards me in protest but i simply move well aside spoiling their attempt to "teach me a lesson". Most of the time i'll simply switch over to the other side of the road giving them the widest possible margin. So i am in complete control and drivers couldn't hit me even if they tried...i'm dodging all the crazy drivers..not all the crazy drivers dodging me..and as a result the world is my oyster..i listen to Mozart to drown out road noise but i normally take the routes where I don't see much traffic...when i do encounter oncoming cars and trucks i ride facing them..when it looks like they're not going to move over even a tiny courteous amount i go onto the shoulder and let them tear by.

    Anyone who rides with their back to the traffic is playing Russian roulette. When i ride facing the traffic i am the one that makes adjustments and i am the one that gets out of everyone's way. By everyone I mean cyclists, cars, trucks, motorcycles, joggers, skateboarders, roller bladders, pedestrians and what ever is coming at me. I go unnoticed on the roads because no one has to brake or maneuver around me.
    Whenever traffic passes, I simply give them the widest possible berth. I ride very slow or walk in very dangerous situations. My bikes big wide tires allow me to go almost anywhere. The big motorcycle mirror mounted on the right side (yes right) really enhances my way of seeing all.

    This way of riding, facing the traffic, was not my idea but my fathers. He was a very smart man when it came to safety. Our entire house was wired with fire detectors 57 years ago. All our boats were enhanced with flotation to prevent them sinking. He must have been the first to get those studded winter tires 50 years ago. He invented safety mirrors for cars that were slightly convex. His most significant accomplishment was redesigning the safety shoe for electrical workers to prevent electrocution. If you have a white tag on your safety shoe with an orange Greek "omega" symbol, that's his shoe. It only took 15 years to convince people it was a smart idea.

    The traffic laws work fairly well for the masses and not too many cyclists are being killed or injured but I prefer feeling entirely safe. I will never rely on others to see me. I will always want to see them and I will continue my civil disobedience and cycling.

    This past spring in Ontario 7 cyclist were killed in 19 days http://www.therecord.com/links/links_070623125435.html


    Cycling facing the traffic is slowly been implemented in different parts of the world. See this link........... http://archive.thisisoxfordshire.co..../14/69179.html
    and this one...http://www.bikexprt.com/bikepol/faci...contraflow.htm







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    ^^^
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    I think he posts here everytime his little "practice" results in a ticket or crash.

    I sorry. I shouldn't feed the troll.
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    Whatever floats your boat.
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    I almost ran into a cyclist riding the wrong way. That would've hurt. We started doing the chicken dance.

    Fortunately, we came to an agreement in time: him in the traffic lane (going the wrong way, I might add) and me hugging the curb.
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    I ride with traffic mainly because I have a terrific ass and want the greatest amount of ppl to see it.

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    Well, I ride with traffic just so I can see your ass.
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    I yell at people who ride against traffic... very nicely of course... but yelling none the less

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    I've found my encounters with wrong way cyclists have been reduced tremendously once I started carrying my lance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaceThem View Post
    ..lets try this again..

    I ride facing the traffic 99.9% of the time and this allows me the greatest possible safety margin for myself.. i watch head on the approaching traffic and move aside when they seem unwilling to move even an inch ..some actually move a little towards me in protest but i simply move well aside spoiling their attempt to "teach me a lesson". Most of the time i'll simply switch over to the other side of the road giving them the widest possible margin. So i am in complete control and drivers couldn't hit me even if they tried...i'm dodging all the crazy drivers..not all the crazy drivers dodging me..and as a result the world is my oyster..i listen to Mozart to drown out road noise but i normally take the routes where I don't see much traffic...when i do encounter oncoming cars and trucks i ride facing them..when it looks like they're not going to move over even a tiny courteous amount i go onto the shoulder and let them tear by.

    Anyone who rides with their back to the traffic is playing Russian roulette. When i ride facing the traffic i am the one that makes adjustments and i am the one that gets out of everyone's way. By everyone I mean cyclists, cars, trucks, motorcycles, joggers, skateboarders, roller bladders, pedestrians and what ever is coming at me. I go unnoticed on the roads because no one has to brake or maneuver around me.
    Whenever traffic passes, I simply give them the widest possible berth. I ride very slow or walk in very dangerous situations. My bikes big wide tires allow me to go almost anywhere. The big motorcycle mirror mounted on the right side (yes right) really enhances my way of seeing all.

    This way of riding, facing the traffic, was not my idea but my fathers. He was a very smart man when it came to safety. Our entire house was wired with fire detectors 57 years ago. All our boats were enhanced with flotation to prevent them sinking. He must have been the first to get those studded winter tires 50 years ago. He invented safety mirrors for cars that were slightly convex. His most significant accomplishment was redesigning the safety shoe for electrical workers to prevent electrocution. If you have a white tag on your safety shoe with an orange Greek "omega" symbol, that's his shoe. It only took 15 years to convince people it was a smart idea.

    The traffic laws work fairly well for the masses and not too many cyclists are being killed or injured but I prefer feeling entirely safe. I will never rely on others to see me. I will always want to see them and I will continue my civil disobedience and cycling.

    This past spring in Ontario 7 cyclist were killed in 19 days http://www.therecord.com/links/links_070623125435.html


    Cycling facing the traffic is slowly been implemented in different parts of the world. See this link........... http://archive.thisisoxfordshire.co..../14/69179.html
    and this one...http://www.bikexprt.com/bikepol/faci...contraflow.htm







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    This is what we call a neotroll...

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    great way to make eye contact with drivers.

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    Beware! The federal government has dispatched ABVs (anti-bike vehicles). Use extreme caution.


    Realize that you will never be completely safe. I believe that you are less safe riding against traffic listening to music. Darting all over the place is not advised as it triggers the motorists "wtf" sensors. Flow with the traffic, be pradictable, be safe.

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    I take it that your Dad became the big safety man AFTER he dropped you on your head?

    Normally you post this BS in June of each year. Your 3 months late this year and you posted it twice within 4 minutes. It really creates confidence in your postition.

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    Did he invent the internet, too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaceThem View Post
    The big motorcycle mirror mounted on the right side (yes right) really enhances my way of seeing all.
    Yeah I bet. Riding into traffic all you will ever see in your mirror is the traffic that has already passed by. That's a real safety item.

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    Hmm lets do some collision math:

    riding "against": Traffic 40mph + Bike 20mph = collision speed of 60mph
    riding "with": Traffic 40mph - Bike 20mph = collision speed of 20mph

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterRun View Post
    Did he invent the internet, too?
    Nope, just the part that helps people avoid being electrocuted when they're online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff View Post
    I almost ran into a cyclist riding the wrong way. That would've hurt. We started doing the chicken dance.

    Fortunately, we came to an agreement in time: him in the traffic lane (going the wrong way, I might add) and me hugging the curb.
    I've hit one straight on. Broke my wheel, fork, and bent (slightly) the frame. Not much room on the side of the road to miss the ba**ards.



    If he's lucky, as he ages, he'll learn

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    Seven deaths in 19 days

    Seven deaths in 19 days...excerpt.."It appears that Taylor was doing everything right when a car driven by an 85-year-old man plowed into him from behind, killing him."

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    This is Africa, 1943. War spits out its violence overhead and the sandy graveyard swallows it up. Her name is King Nine, B-25, medium bomber, Twelfth Air Force. On a hot, still morning she took off from Tunisia to bomb the southern tip of Italy. An errant piece of flak tore a hole in a wing tank and, like a wounded bird, this is where she landed, not to return on this day, or any other day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobartlemagne View Post
    Hmm lets do some collision math:

    riding "against": Traffic 40mph + Bike 20mph = collision speed of 60mph
    riding "with": Traffic 40mph - Bike 20mph = collision speed of 20mph

    Traffic 40mph ???? Not where i live..more like 60mph
    Bike 20 mph?? going up hill against the wind...more like 5mph


    Lets do some other math

    riding "against": 2 eyes cyclist plus 2 eyes driver = 4 eyes collision avoidance
    riding "with": 2 eyes driver = 2 eyes driver (and hopefully not blurry or distracted or blinded by glare)

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    Quote Originally Posted by closetbiker View Post
    I've hit one straight on. Broke my wheel, fork, and bent (slightly) the frame. Not much room on the side of the road to miss the ba**ards.



    If he's lucky, as he ages, he'll learn
    If I'm reading that chart correctly, since I'm 31, I should start riding against traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaceThem View Post
    riding "against": 2 eyes cyclist plus 2 eyes driver = 4 eyes collision avoidance
    riding "with": 2 eyes driver = 2 eyes driver (and hopefully not blurry or distracted or blinded by glare)
    We should drive our cars against traffic. The same logic holds, yea?

    So, where do you live that has all these nice shoulders which you can ride against traffic? Or do you ride against traffic on roads without shoulders as well?
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