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Old 11-18-07, 06:40 PM   #1
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Choose bike storage I designed!

Hello, I am doing research about how to keep bike in home.
As you can see, these are storage design for bike in rooms, not outsides.
Please, choose one of these pictures. Each picture is different idea and design.

Description of four photos:
1st picture - storage looks like a frame with bike photo

2nd picture - when users keep their bikes indoor,
bikes become machine for health.

3rd picture - storage for bike can be transferred into furniture

4th picture - water and sand caused from wheels of bike make plant grow up

5th picture - bike + helmet + cloth storage system
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Old 11-18-07, 06:53 PM   #2
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um, those are interesting.

I like the picture frame one.
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1 seriously underestimates the size and width of a bike
2 makes no sense - it's missing actual rollers or a trainer stand
3 is a 27" high seat that's only usable when I'm not at home
4...maybe, if designed with the bike

Sorry, I'll stick with kickstand and wall. If you could work in tool storage and basic work stand (just lifting the wheels off the ground) I might be interested.
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Old 11-19-07, 09:17 AM   #5
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um, those are interesting.

I like the picture frame one.
The picture frame idea is nice if you have a good looking bike... a couple of wall hooks coming out of the wall can be used to suspend a bike in a frame. Personally I like the devices that are like vertical poles that brace between the ceiling and floor and hold the bikes horizontally.
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I like 4 but you'll probably make a bigger mess going to it and from it.
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What about something that looks like an armoire from the front, yet is hinged so it allows a bike to be rolled-in from the side? Perhaps a second hinge allowing the front to be opened forward so helmets, gloves, shoes, and other gear could be stored inside? Even better if a dehumifier could be incorporated into the design to dry garments for commuters! You're onto something!

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Those rooms have so much space, you can just lean a bike against a wall.
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R U being serious? I presume not. If you are then there ought to be some men coming to take you away hey, hey.
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Hello, I am doing research about how to keep bike in home.
As you can see, these are storage design for bike in rooms, not outsides.
Please, choose one of these pictures. Each picture is different idea and design.

Description of four photos:
1st picture - storage looks like a frame with bike photo

2nd picture - when users keep their bikes indoor,
bikes become machine for health.

3rd picture - storage for bike can be transferred into furniture

4th picture - water and sand caused from wheels of bike make plant grow up
Interesting ideas. Keep thinking.

1) That frame would get pretty heavy to frame an entire bike. I have 4 in my apartment so framing each one would get massive. And of course, no two bikes are the same size.

2) Just like parking it on rollers.

3) I couldn't make out the picture, it was too dark. Again, could the furniture adapt to different shaped bikes?

4) Interesting idea. All the plants in one for mine would die because of all the oil and gas that my tires pick up in the parking lot.

What my "real world" answer is that I have 4 5'x18" runner carpets laid out on the floor, one for each bike. The bikes are laid out according to size and amount of use. Each one gets its own carpet. As I said, all the bikes are different.




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Simplicty and ease of use are above all what I consider the most important parts, I dont' like all off them... I prefer something maybe that could hold a bike horizontal and vertical, along with your bike gear, but not on a figure, I find that kind of weird looking.
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5 is the only one that seems practical, although it isn't actually serving any purpose. The bike is still taking up the same amount of space, with the added difficulty of having to install the hardware. Aesthetically could be great, however.

You designed these? You need to start way, way back, unless this is strictly blue-sky ideation.

1) What is the problem that needs to be solved?

2) What are the existing solutions?

3) What are the problems of the exisiting solutions?

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actually a few ideas are good, 1 and 5 get the bike up off the floor where it's out of the way, very important when you have small rooms (my house was built for a coal fired gravity heat system, small rooms and short halls)

Number three is a useable idea, though I think placing the bike transverse with the seat would be more effective for the majority of people. think a sofa with a 'thick' back that the bike can be slipped into. Or a sofa-bed but instead of a bed it's a fold out bike 'box'.

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If you did a little 'research' with online bicycle accessories dealers, you'd find a lot of real-world-practical (as opposed to arsty-fartsy-dumb) solutions to indoor bicycle storage.












Good luck with your 'design' project.



Here's what Duchamp came up with, but it's for a unicycle. Maybe you could do something similar with a bench or a loveseat.

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You guys are harsh. I like 1, 4, & 5.

These would be excellent for someone who has a nice apartment, keeps a clean bike inside, and maybe doesn't use the bike so much. If they use it a lot, then you have to worry about it being dirty and it has to go on and off storage very easily.

These seem to be about design over function - or at least, you have shown the design. It is not clear from the pictures how the bike is held in place.

B/t/w - some of those 'real world' solutions shown above suck. I have used the top two. The first one sucks life out of the owner. The second is fine if you like shoddy workmanship, don't mind tire marks on the wall, and are fine with a leaning tower look.
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Do you mean this one?




You're supposed to hang the bike up with it, not yourself.
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Who says that bike storage can't be a little fun? It's also about the presentation; flip a microwave TV dinner onto a nice plate on a nice table accompanied by proper silverware and it'll look like a decent self-prepared dinner.

1. It would be more like a bike mural instead of a photo. It looks cool, though.

2. Hmm. It looks like a treadmill to me. If the speed issue could be resolved, would a treadmill like this be a better option than rollers or a bolt-on trainer? You'd have to figure out how to store the bike on it, too.

3. How does it fit in there -- from the top? Besides that part, integrating bikes with furniture might not work very well. Most pieces of furniture need to be accessible by people from many angles, and putting a bike in the way would be eliminating some access. It looks cool, but it would be hard to live with.

4. It would take years of bringing in microscopic amounts of sand & dirt on bike tires to grow anything. It's a nice look, but I don't know if it could work.

5. That looks kinda cool. You'd have to build it so that you could account for different wheelbase sizes and whatnot, but as long as there's enough wall space, it looks like it wouldn't be any more difficult to install than a few hooks.
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I admit that I am no fun, but I simply hang mine upside down from the garage rafters, using bicycle storage hooks, above and in front of the bonnets of the cars.
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Another thing to consider is how long the bike will be stored and how clean the bike will be. A fair weather bike that one doesn't ride often could have an complex storage system. But a daily commuter bike needs able to be set up and removed in one second or it's too complex and will not be used. Also, it's going to leave a mess (water dripping from tires and dried dirt and leaves will fall off).
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You're supposed to hang the bike up with it, not yourself.
That's the one. You might as well just buy a unicycle. It would be easier to use and take up less room.
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#2 principle is the one I use, except it is a conventional stationary trainer. The basic design and implementation of these seems fairly mature technology at present. The only storage innovation I can think is an elegant, practical, secure way to leave the bike attached to the trainer but store the bike vertically to take less floor space (just thought of that, hmm ...). There are treadmill models that fold to take up less room when not in use, why not a trainer that provides vertical storage? Would stability of the trainer with bike stored vertically be a problem?

If you are not restricted to a bike storage idea, I suggest you think about how to improve other aspects of stationary trainers. For example:

1. Make them more "realistic" to ride (as I imagine rollers are) but without rollers' "features" of falling over & steeper learning curve. Kurt Kinetic's Rock & Roll model rocks side-to-side but it reportedly is not that realistic. I suspect that duplicating the gyroscopic effect of a rotating front wheel is difficult.

2. Make them less boring (reading stand, computer interface to a video game, etc.) at a lower cost than the present computer trainers.

3. Make them quieter.

4. Eliminate any hazard to pets or small children.

3. Connect them to a quiet fan (cylindrical blower at lower RPM might be quieter). Kreitler rollers offer a Fan Accessory that is just this sort of cylindrical blower. Trainers need fans because when you exercise vigorously on them, you sweat enough that your effort becomes more limited by how hot you get, not your aerobic limit.

If you decide to design any of the above, please post a follow-up or private messenger me. I'd be interested.

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These seem to be about design over function
Does not compute

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Your designs are artistic, but not practacle.

Also, if your house has as much space as that architechtural wonder in your pictures, I see no reason to merge the bike into furniture or walls, to save space.

The photos give the impression that the bikes are purely artistic decorations.
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The first one sucks life out of the owner.
I wonder how out of shape you have to be if you can't use a pulley system to lift your bike.
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