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    ARGH! This A&S frustrates me ...

    ... and I like it.

    While it raises my blood pressure and makes me sweat as I madly type out answers here or e-mail some corrupted columnist there .... I am quite interested in hearing what goes on in other areas of the country/world that has to do with bicycling problems.

    Keep it up!

    Now you'll have to excuse me, I must go take a time out in Foo and let the blood pressure go down.

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    A beer and a valium also helps.

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    Always end with Foo.
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    It's cheap entertainment, plus I sometimes learn things. You can't beat that! I can't say much about foo, I don't stop in there very often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcryar View Post
    A beer and a valium also helps.
    so does a bike ride.

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    I just laugh at it. Kinda like seeing monkeys at the zoo. (I do sometimes wish I knew of a cycling forum for serious advocacy discussion.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by patc View Post
    I just laugh at it. Kinda like seeing monkeys at the zoo. (I do sometimes wish I knew of a cycling forum for serious advocacy discussion.)
    I think that maybe the problem is advocacy AND safety. While the two are very much related advocacy can be a very different thing from safety concerns. FWIW it seems like most of the truly monkeys at the zoo (arguably flinging poo) discussions regard safety more than advocacy. But you know I could be wrong.

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    I think you are missing Tude's point. She's not stressed about the A&S discussion, but instead the ignorant newspaper editorial/stories.

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    Tude! Now you know why I have been at least lurking over on Foo.
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    The thing about the A&S forum is that it has very little to do with true advocacy or safety and is mostly a 'mine is bigger than yours' pissing contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikEthan View Post
    I think that maybe the problem is advocacy AND safety. While the two are very much related advocacy can be a very different thing from safety concerns. FWIW it seems like most of the truly monkeys at the zoo (arguably flinging poo) discussions regard safety more than advocacy. But you know I could be wrong.
    I think you're right, but I also think it would be hard to discuss either aspect on its own for long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tude View Post
    ... and I like it.

    While it raises my blood pressure and makes me sweat as I madly type out answers here or e-mail some corrupted columnist there .... I am quite interested in hearing what goes on in other areas of the country/world that has to do with bicycling problems.

    Keep it up!

    Now you'll have to excuse me, I must go take a time out in Foo and let the blood pressure go down.
    Just a thought for real advocacy. A while ago Los Angeles had a Bicycle Co-ordinator. One thing he did was go out to the various bike clubs and ask for ideas, thoughs, wants whatever. I'm not sure how it played out with other clubs, but with the SFVBC a clear part was hazzards.

    Well I responded. There were a couple of places where there were train tracks crossing at an angle in poor repair. There was a bike path set back from the road about 15-20 feet with onstreet parking right up to where the driveway turned in to Lake Balboa (San Fernando Valley, not further south). Withing 6 months all of these were addressed. For the last all it took was some red paint (and of course the huge overhead of city employees doing it).

    In this case the city started the dialog. I have heard some Aldermen in NYC are responsive to this kind of thing. It might be worth a try. It is surprising how small things can lead to big things. (Oh and do give them some time, remember glaciers retreat faster than government can move).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikEthan View Post
    I think that maybe the problem is advocacy AND safety. While the two are very much related advocacy can be a very different thing from safety concerns...
    I advocate on the basis of safety.

    It's safer for everybody when someone chooses to cycle rather than drive.

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    Remember, though, always post in a vehicular manner.

    Get a bicycle. You will certainly not regret it, if you live.

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    I like posting in the little space at the far bottom of the page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Human Car View Post
    I like posting in the little space at the far bottom of the page.

    Writing in the gutter is very dangerous-





    Be safe and take the page!
    Last edited by AlmostTrick; 01-11-08 at 05:17 PM.
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    Very clever you are. But the most important thing is to give everyone a steely-eyed stare.
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    Looking right at you to make sure you words don't cross mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    Very clever you are. But the most important thing is to give everyone a steely-eyed stare.
    And brag about ignoring those you can't stare down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by closetbiker View Post
    It's safer for everybody when someone chooses to cycle rather than drive.
    Right there with ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    Very clever you are. But the most important thing is to give everyone a steely-eyed stare.
    Course now I have this awesome mental image of a bunch of BF people sitting at their computers diving the monitors really dirty looks whenever they change threads or post. Goofy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikEthan View Post
    Course now I have this awesome mental image of a bunch of BF people sitting at their computers diving the monitors really dirty looks whenever they change threads or post. Goofy.
    You underestimate the dangers of being "right threaded"
    Get a bicycle. You will certainly not regret it, if you live.

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