Baronness whacked scofflaw cyclist with her handbag
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Let me see, the lady (age 83) was on a signal controlled crossing with the green light in her favour. Numpty cyclist ignores his red light and sails straight across in front of her. He assaulted her, actually, since his behaviour caused her fear for her own safety, which is, in the UK at least, the definition of assault.
Unless, of course, you consider lawbreaking by cyclists to be acceptable, simply by reason of being on a bike.
He was an idiot and a selfish one at that.
Yesterday, I was interviewed on the same local radio programme as Lady Sharples and was forced to defend cyclists from the kinds of ignoramuses who commented on the Daily Mail story,including someone from the Association of British Drivers, a group who are incensed by speed cameras and believe that drivers are unfairly targeted by the law.
Since cyclists who ignore red lights and ride on the pavement (sidewalk to you) are far more visible than the idiot drivers who routinely ignore the speed limit and amber gamble, we suffer disproportionately from public disapproval. Even when I quoted the 530 pedestrians killed on crossing 1998-2005 thro' collisions with motor vehicles, as against the 3 killed in collisions with cyclists, I was fighting against the general run of phone calls and texts.
No matter how unfair this weight of criticism against us is, we need to break this too frequent habit of ignoring the law (when it suits us) or we lose the political battle. Public perception is all when you are campaigning for better treatment of riders and every pillock who does what this rider did makes it difficult for campaigners to win their case, no matter how justified it is.
I hope that you will maintain the same irate views against a lady in her position if your grandmother's safety is threatened by similar lawbreaking arrogance
Unless, of course, you consider lawbreaking by cyclists to be acceptable, simply by reason of being on a bike.
He was an idiot and a selfish one at that.
Yesterday, I was interviewed on the same local radio programme as Lady Sharples and was forced to defend cyclists from the kinds of ignoramuses who commented on the Daily Mail story,including someone from the Association of British Drivers, a group who are incensed by speed cameras and believe that drivers are unfairly targeted by the law.
Since cyclists who ignore red lights and ride on the pavement (sidewalk to you) are far more visible than the idiot drivers who routinely ignore the speed limit and amber gamble, we suffer disproportionately from public disapproval. Even when I quoted the 530 pedestrians killed on crossing 1998-2005 thro' collisions with motor vehicles, as against the 3 killed in collisions with cyclists, I was fighting against the general run of phone calls and texts.
No matter how unfair this weight of criticism against us is, we need to break this too frequent habit of ignoring the law (when it suits us) or we lose the political battle. Public perception is all when you are campaigning for better treatment of riders and every pillock who does what this rider did makes it difficult for campaigners to win their case, no matter how justified it is.
I hope that you will maintain the same irate views against a lady in her position if your grandmother's safety is threatened by similar lawbreaking arrogance
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She should have used her control over the forces of magnetism to restrain the bicycle itself.
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Even scarier is they are looking to go for license plates on bicycles there. Perish the thought.
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So who votes fpor a life peer?
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I was so wrong and I stand so corrected that she doesn't get her peerage through an accident of sperm, she only gets her peerage by being appointed by those who derive political power from an accident of sperm.
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Oh, so the public doesn't vote for her? Ah, so its bunch of in-breds who claim political power because of an accident of sperm (because a place in the house of Lords can only be inheritied) that appoint her, right?
I was so wrong and I stand so corrected that she doesn't get her peerage through an accident of sperm, she only gets her peerage by being appointed by those who derive political power from an accident of sperm.
I was so wrong and I stand so corrected that she doesn't get her peerage through an accident of sperm, she only gets her peerage by being appointed by those who derive political power from an accident of sperm.
The Commission has non-partisan members and non-peers as well as representatives from the House of Lords of the three largest political parties.
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all cities have rude cyclists. but it's not appropriate to make cyclists scapegoats for rude behavior all the time by all kinds of people.
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As previously explained, there are life peers and hereditary peers - the House of Lords is constituted of both types...
The Commission has non-partisan members and non-peers as well as representatives from the House of Lords of the three largest political parties.
The Commission has non-partisan members and non-peers as well as representatives from the House of Lords of the three largest political parties.
My guess is the peerage of Self Righteous No Neck Know-It-Alls; this group also has a large contingent in the US. It is found in the form of screaming, bear can throwing Jackasses, who also feel entitled to physically/verbally "inform " cyclists of their displeasure with the sight of any cyclist "in the way."
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I know you're serious, because you're iltb. But you do realize that you are comparing aplles to oranges, do you not? Because in the case of the Baroness, we have an 83 year old woman with the right of way who was nearly hit by a bicyclist. Now, maybe you haven't realized this, but old people are often frail. Had mister Saintly Cyclist hit the Baroness, she could have easily sustained severe injury, or even have been killed. You say somehow Saintly Cyclist here was being wronged because the Baroness essentially pelted him with beer cans and rude comments from her Ford F-150 in southern Alabama, even though he broke the law and almost caused a collision.
Do you even read your own bull****? Now, if a car had cut of the cyclist with the right of way, you'd probably say they should be shot to death. But when a cyclist does the same exact thing to a vulnerable elderly road user, it's okay. Double standards much?
Just shut up.
Do you even read your own bull****? Now, if a car had cut of the cyclist with the right of way, you'd probably say they should be shot to death. But when a cyclist does the same exact thing to a vulnerable elderly road user, it's okay. Double standards much?
Just shut up.
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I know you're serious, because you're iltb. But you do realize that you are comparing aplles to oranges, do you not? Because in the case of the Baroness, we have an 83 year old woman with the right of way who was nearly hit by a bicyclist. Now, maybe you haven't realized this...
Just shut up.
Just shut up.
It must be true because you read it on the Internet (extracted from a British Tabloid , no less!)that it happened just da way the apple headed baroness with an agenda said it happened didn't it, eh? Just like the orange headed smart jacks like yourself and raisin brained car shouters believe too whenever you/they hear/read a report of a cyclist doing wrong in one of your peer's eyes, eh?
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I'm sorry, but an old woman isn't going to go hit people with her purse for no particular reason. I remember how many red light runners I saw when I was in London, so I'm going to say it probably happened the way it was reported. And again, she is 83 years old. If Saintly Cyclist had hit the evil Baroness, I'm sure the story would've read "Baroness Hit and Killed by Light-Jumping Cyclist".
There's no groupthink (it's one word) here, buddy. I'm simply not paranoid like you clearly are. I know you can't stand it, but guess what: cyclists aren't the infallible gods of the road. If you don't want to get hit with purse, don't violate an old womans ROW. Most importantly, though, if the idea of getting hit with a purse would make you petty and childish for jumping lights, maybe you should change your ways.
I can't believe you're even arguing this. Oh wait, yes I can! You're iltb, so logic isn't required for anything, at all, ever.
There's no groupthink (it's one word) here, buddy. I'm simply not paranoid like you clearly are. I know you can't stand it, but guess what: cyclists aren't the infallible gods of the road. If you don't want to get hit with purse, don't violate an old womans ROW. Most importantly, though, if the idea of getting hit with a purse would make you petty and childish for jumping lights, maybe you should change your ways.
I can't believe you're even arguing this. Oh wait, yes I can! You're iltb, so logic isn't required for anything, at all, ever.
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So which group of "peers" granted the Baroness of Hand Bag the privilege to whack anyone that offends her delicate sensibilities?
My guess is the peerage of Self Righteous No Neck Know-It-Alls; this group also has a large contingent in the US. It is found in the form of screaming, bear can throwing Jackasses, who also feel entitled to physically/verbally "inform " cyclists of their displeasure with the sight of any cyclist "in the way."
My guess is the peerage of Self Righteous No Neck Know-It-Alls; this group also has a large contingent in the US. It is found in the form of screaming, bear can throwing Jackasses, who also feel entitled to physically/verbally "inform " cyclists of their displeasure with the sight of any cyclist "in the way."
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So he jumped the light and violated the ROW of a little old lady?
He would have deserved it if she had, had Cadbury clothesline him.
He would have deserved it if she had, had Cadbury clothesline him.
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There's no groupthink (it's one word) here, buddy. I'm simply not paranoid like you clearly are. I know you can't stand it, but guess what: cyclists aren't the infallible gods of the road. If you don't want to get hit with purse, don't violate an old womans ROW. Most importantly, though, if the idea of getting hit with a purse would make you petty and childish for jumping lights, maybe you should change your ways.
I can't believe you're even arguing this. Oh wait, yes I can! You're iltb, so logic isn't required for anything, at all, ever.
What's next, going to react to what you KNOW all about cyclists as reported by Radio Shock Jocks and Letters to the Editor of the local Supermarket handout; or maybe the doings of Brittany or Lindsey as reported by the British Tabs?
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Yep, you KNOW all about what happened in London just like you KNOW what I (or anybody else) "can't stand", and you KNOW that I think (or have written) that cyclists are "infallible gods" or should not be held accountable for their actions. Yep, you KNOW all about that "double standard" gibberish you assign to me because you are like the handful of other dimwits who choose to IGNORE (some even brag about their IGNORance) what I wrote and instead write about what you KNOW I think.
As far as responding to you goes, you say some things that I think are pretty rediculous. You seem paranoid, because you insist that it is never the fault of the cyclist, even when they're breaking the law. When this is mentioned, you say that everyone else is lying about the cyclist breaking the law, and the entire series of events that followed. Why? Because society absolutely hates cyclists, and will crush them given any opportunity to do so.
There really is no "groupthink" here in A&S. If I wanted to "suppress your voice", I'd put you on ignore. But I won't do that, because I participate in this forum to get multiple viewpoints. That doesn't mean all are equal, however, and if I'm not obligated to believe what I think is insane. Like some of the things you say, for example.
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What's next, going to react to what you KNOW all about cyclists as reported by Radio Shock Jocks and Letters to the Editor of the local Supermarket handout; or maybe the doings of Brittany or Lindsey as reported by the British Tabs?
You still haven't addressed any of that. You're just getting technical because you have nothing to say in regard to the actual subject at hand. Please contribute to the thread in your next post!
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An old woman was quoted in a British Rag after hitting a bicyclist; some self righteous BF posters cheered because she must have been justified because, one, she said so, and two, their experience tells them that it is always (or should be) open season on bad boy cyclists as defined by the self appointed whackers and their smug cheerleaders.
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Now there are situations where this is acceptable, but obviously in the incident related in the OP, this was not one of those situations.
"Cadbury, clothesline that brute!"
"Yes Ma'am."
thud!
WHUMP!
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He's lucky he's not in this country, some mouth breather would have more likely have shot him.
If he's close enough for her to hit him with her handbag, he's too close. I use the same logic when folks cut me off when I'm walking in a crosswalk. If I can reach your car your too close.
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