That is one tough case. I know the prevailing sentiment around here is that someone like hm should rot in prison, and that might be right. A very large civil judgment against him is the only real compensation for the victim's family, and a long prison sentence cannot deter negligence (except his own).
As if the Jewish faith isn't dying enough as it is, they have to go around accidentally killing eachother.
Originally Posted by closetbiker
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Capo [dschaw'-poe]: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger, S/N 42624
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1981 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
One somewhat poor example would be the OJ trial... where the criminal proceedings were quite heavily followed, but the civil proceedings were almost "off the record."
It seems to me that publicizing that perpetrators are penalized and how should be part of the process of criminal deterrence.
How about that he be treated like a sex offender. The court should order that he's not allowed to live within 1/4 mile of pedestrians or bicyclists, he is no longer to have a cellphone or driver's license, and he must report his place of domicile to the authorities, whose database of such offenders will be publically available so the rest of society can be vigilant if necessary.
Civil judgment may be difficult. assets may not be under his name on anything.
"Regardless or not if he's a good person," Holifield said, "he's a lousy driver."
"There were no skid marks to show Schwartz tried to brake, Senior Assistant City Attorney Kevin Kilpatrick said. "He wasn't paying attention.""
Or he has ABS brakes, like most modern cars do. Are skid marks really still used as a sign that someone tried to brake? Skid marks to me indicate a loss of control of the vehicle.
"But Holifield said no jail time would bring Nakata back."
Well duh. I fail to see how the irreversibility of the crime is somehow an argument for a lighter punishment, nor the length of their prayers.
If we learn from our mistakes, I must be a goddamn genius.
ABS brake will usually still leave marks at the start of hard braking. . . It looks similar to a burnout marks. ABS doesn't kick in till the brakes/wheels lock up, not usually before.
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I've got news for him and anyone else with a "(insert religious figure's name of choice, or 'Darwin,' for that matter) is my Co-Pilot" license plate - Divine Intervention does not apply to the directional coordinates of your steering wheel, and most certainly never at all times.
Neither will prayer solve something irreversible after the fact, regardless of your faith. What's done is done.
P.S.: Forgive my rant, but after perceiving multiple motorists with this bumper sticker driving with the same capabilities of a drunkard (three of which were not actively holding the steering wheel for extended periods of time, for the pavement permitted some margin for error), I felt obligated to complain about the subject.
I'm guessing GreenPremier thought the previous victim was Jewish?
If that is the case, I wouldn't jump to that conclusion...
skid marks only indicate that the car's wheels locked up or the car drifted off axis. With ABS and dynamic electronic stability control systems, skid marks are becoming less frequent. A lack of skid marks doesn't necessarily indicate that person didn't try to stop or avoid the person or car he hit. I don't know what was being driven in this case, but a lack of skid marks is often incorrectly cited here to explain what a driver was doing.
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I think somewhere it said he was driving an early 90s Oldsmobile wagon?
Scary. Good thing he doesn't have a drinking history...........
But we are getting off topic, talking about car technology in a cycling forum.