Indiana you CAN get points on your license!
BICYCLES
Automobiles and bicycles have equal rights upon Indiana roadways. Bicyclists must observe all traffic rules applicable to the driver of a vehicle, including usage of the right lane of the highway in travel stopping and proceeding in accord with traffic signals, and the usage of prescribed manual signs for the guidance of other traffic. The penalties which may be imposed for violations of these offenses are the same as if the bicyclist were driving a car, including, where applicable, the possible loss of a driver's license. In addition, there are statutes specifically governing bicyclists. Be aware: 1. There must be a seat for every person riding a bicycle or carrying another person on the bicycle. 2. Bicyclists may ride two abreast, but not more than two abreast, on the roadway. 3. No bicyclist may carry any package or bundle which prevents the rider from keeping both hands on the handlebars. 4. A bicyclist may not use a siren or whistle, but must have a bell or other device attached to the bicycle capable of being heard for one hundered (100) feet. 5. Bicycles must be equipped with a white light on the front and a red light or reflector on the back for use from one-halr hour after sunset to one-half hour before sunrise. Finally, although there is no statute requiring that a bicyclist wear protective headgear, it is strongly advised that each bicyclist wear an approved helmet. http://www.indiana.edu/~sls/traffic_violations.html |
Although I generally support reasonable enforcement of traffic laws for bicyclists, putting points on one's motoring record is going way too far. This sounds like a great reason to carry one's passport, instead of a driver's license, when cycling.
Does item 5 mean that I have to keep a headlight on every bike, including those I ride only during broad daylight? |
JohnE
I have been down this road with the NCDMV in the past. My contention is that a driver's license IS NOT required to ride(operate) a bicycle, so I don't expect ticket points to be applied. I did not carry one for identification. I had a State Issued ID card. Looks very similar to the DL. I was "ticketed" for failure to yield right of way, the car ran the red light but who are you going to believe?;) Low and behold the points showed up on my license a few months later. Short of not having a DL you are likely to get screwed in many states if they can link you to your DL. I did manage to get my points removed but it cost me over $500 in attorney fees. Aaron:) |
In FL, bike infractions do not go on your drivers license.
Different payment schedule, too........ I think its because most of the drivers here dont have licenses. Paperwork nitemare :eek: |
Stupid, stupid rule.
So, conceivably, you could lose your driving license through your actions on a bike, but since you don't need a license to ride a bike, you can continue to do so afterwards. What happens if they catch you again after that? Do they take your license of you again? Yeah, perfectly sensible :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Allister
(Post 6525167)
Stupid, stupid rule.
So, conceivably, you could lose your driving license through your actions on a bike, but since you don't need a license to ride a bike, you can continue to do so afterwards. What happens if they catch you again after that? Do they take your license of you again? Yeah, perfectly sensible :rolleyes: Aaron:) |
I would rely on the underlying statute rather than a third-party website.
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Originally Posted by John E
(Post 6523587)
Although I generally support reasonable enforcement of traffic laws for bicyclists, putting points on one's motoring record is going way too far. This sounds like a great reason to carry one's passport, instead of a driver's license, when cycling. . . .
Fortunately, thanks to the Ohio Bike Federation's lobbying, cyclists don't get points on our licenses for routine traffic offenses. The Highway Patrol insisted that reckless cycling and drunk cycling still cause points. That doesn't make a lot of sense, but it was an acceptable concession to get the bill passed. |
Originally Posted by Daily Commute
(Post 6527383)
... The Highway Patrol insisted that reckless cycling and drunk cycling still cause points. ...
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Originally Posted by John E
(Post 6527913)
Does "reckless cycling" include, say, taking the lane?
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Putting points on a person's driving licence for a cycling offence is completely nuts!!
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Originally Posted by Raleigh Chopper
(Post 6535063)
Putting points on a person's driving licence for a cycling offence is completely nuts!!
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Originally Posted by John E
(Post 6523587)
Although I generally support reasonable enforcement of traffic laws for bicyclists, putting points on one's motoring record is going way too far. This sounds like a great reason to carry one's passport, instead of a driver's license, when cycling.
Does item 5 mean that I have to keep a headlight on every bike, including those I ride only during broad daylight? |
DCCommuter - come to the UK - you'll love it here! I got stopped once for driving my car at over 100mph (allegedly) on the motorway (freeway) - the policeman took my driver's licence details and basically just said "don't do it again!" - nothing else. Since that day I have never exceeded the speed limit. Ever. *Ahem* :D
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Originally Posted by Daily Commute
(Post 6533756)
No. It's reckless driving. I think it usually means driving crazy dangerous, like wildly excessive speed. Criminal defense lawyers tell me it's often something people charged with drunk driving plead to when the prosecutor isn't sure he can win a drunk driving conviction.
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Originally Posted by Daily Commute
(Post 6527383)
In Ohio (and I imagine elsewhere), the cop can hold you until he's definitively ID'd you. Once he's done that, he can link you to your DL. Don't play ID games with cops. It just ticks off the cop and gives him an excuse to f--- with you.
Fortunately, thanks to the Ohio Bike Federation's lobbying, cyclists don't get points on our licenses for routine traffic offenses. The Highway Patrol insisted that reckless cycling and drunk cycling still cause points. That doesn't make a lot of sense, but it was an acceptable concession to get the bill passed. |
welcome to dufus land. Because you have made yourself a visable target. You might actually be
that much vunerable. |
Originally Posted by making
(Post 6535326)
Actually what I was told in court (many years ago), they can charge you with reckless driving for about anything. For example we were discussing being about 15 mph over the speed limit. Judge splained to me he could convict me of reckless driving and would had the officer written a ticked for it.
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Originally Posted by John E
(Post 6523587)
Although I generally support reasonable enforcement of traffic laws for bicyclists, putting points on one's motoring record is going way too far. This sounds like a great reason to carry one's passport, instead of a driver's license, when cycling.
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Yet, for the definitions of driving while impaired, riding a bicycle is not considered driving while impaired in North Carolina. And you don't have to have a license to ride a bike, but they can penalize you with points if you do have one. The hypocrisy of this state government is simply stunning.
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It just dawned on me, the bell. Do I really have to have a bell on my bike? The other day at the LBS I noticed they all had a hokey little bells on them. Dang, could I be ticketed for not having a bell on my bike?
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then what if I did not pay the ticket, could I be arrested? Thrown in jail, have a record, learn to be a real criminal in prison. Hummm for some reason Alices Resturant comes to mind.
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Originally Posted by making
(Post 6549661)
It just dawned on me, the bell. Do I really have to have a bell on my bike? The other day at the LBS I noticed they all had a hokey little bells on them. Dang, could I be ticketed for not having a bell on my bike?
Originally Posted by making
(Post 6549666)
then what if I did not pay the ticket, could I be arrested? Thrown in jail, have a record, learn to be a real criminal in prison. Hummm for some reason Alices Resturant comes to mind.
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Originally Posted by Daily Commute
(Post 6551219)
It depends on your local laws, but I think most places require a bell. I have one on my bike. They're very handy, especially if you ever get on an MUP.
I don't know. They might just make it impossible to get or renew a drivers license or license plates. Some places might put out an arrest warrant, which could pop up at a very inconvenient time. |
I'll probably be the odd man out here but I'm all in favor of strict penalties for not following the law on a car or on a bike. If they started assessing DL points for cycling infractions around here then maybe some of the more dip**** cyclists would start cleaning up their act. It's a rare day that I don't see a cyclist blowing a stop sign, gutter passing, etc. and I don't mean where there's no traffic either.
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