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Old 05-15-08, 07:42 PM   #1
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South Carolina may allow motorcycles & bicycles to run red lights.

http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8329953

COLUMBIA, SC (AP) - South Carolina motorcyclists would be able to run some red lights under a measure heading to the governor's desk.

The Senate and House agreed Thursday on a bill allowing motorcyclists, moped drivers and bicyclists to go through a stop light after waiting for two minutes if the light doesn't change and the intersection is clear.
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Old 05-15-08, 08:06 PM   #2
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...allowing motorcyclists, moped drivers and bicyclists to go through a stop light after waiting for two minutes if the light doesn't change and the intersection is clear.
This makes lots of sense, however I don't think I'd have the patience to wait a full two minutes, and normally a car will show up by then, and see a skeleton (me) waiting on a bicycle...

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i wonder if isn't codified already under 'malfunctioning' traffic signal clauses there.

sure don't wait two minutes if i think a signal is malfunctioning or won't detect my bike, law or no law-depending on traffic, even in my car!
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This law has been in effect for some time here in MN.
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2 minutes? What kind of light doesn't cycle for 2 whole minutes after a vehicle arrives?

Anyway, I figure during low-traffic times, stop lights should be treated like stop signs (green has right of way)... better yet the city get cracking with better algorithms on traffic light programming. I'd guess you could double or even triple the rate of flow looking at how inefficient they are.
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i wonder if isn't codified already under 'malfunctioning' traffic signal clauses there.

sure don't wait two minutes if i think a signal is malfunctioning or won't detect my bike, law or no law-depending on traffic, even in my car!
I was thinking the same thing. I haven't encountered light yet that had cycle longer then 2 minutes. If it doesn't turn green after that amount of time chances are it's because detectors are not calibrated properly. In that case it falls under "malfunctioning" light. So it seems the whole proposal is kind of pointless.
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There are a few lights (3 out of the 8) in my little town that I know won't change if a bicycle is waiting. And the wait can be much longer than two minutes. I know them all by heart. So what I do on those lights is wait out any traffic crossing, then cross the light.

The lights work by magnets sensors and my bicycle (and I would guess mopeds and motorcycles) won't trigger them to change the light, thus leaving it red until a car comes along.
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There are a few lights (3 out of the 8) in my little town that I know won't change if a bicycle is waiting. And the wait can be much longer than two minutes. I know them all by heart. So what I do on those lights is wait out any traffic crossing, then cross the light.

The lights work by magnets sensors and my bicycle (and I would guess mopeds and motorcycles) won't trigger them to change the light, thus leaving it red until a car comes along.
I feel you.

I wonder if you can't notify your city/county and let them know the light won't change for you. Until then, check your local codes, there may be a clause already in place to allow you to treat unresponsive reds as stop signs.

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Great, all we need are thousands of drunk bikers running red lights and stop signs during Bike Week (which to some degree is every week in Myrtle Beach).
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