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message to bikers from truckers
stop getting in our F#$^%@#^%& blind spots . we cant see you which means if you get runover we wont feel it or hear it. i almost got into a collision because the first asshat was trying to beat me to the corner i was already in the process of entering the turn and caused me to go into the incoming lane to avoid hitting him. he was well aware of what he did and sped off i got his bike memorized so if i see it riding around when im riding im gonna adjust his derailleur to the tallest gear.
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Over here the rules are if a cyclist is coming up your inside, the right turning vehicle has to stop, as the cyclist has the right of way. Most vehicle on bike accidents are when the driver fails to do this. Such accidents are rare because of training and the penalties on the driver if they fail to comply. A government minister actually lost their car license and had to retake the driving test after failing to give way and had such an accident.
Being a bit of a petrol head I am also licensed to drive buses, artics, even a tank, and wonder why you'd go onto the road unassisted in such an older/poorly designed vehicle? Would suggest a mirror upgrade and a rearwards camera, certainly a co driver to help out. Also a rule we have that might help are that if the vehicle has such a blindspot you have to do "a left, to turn right", i.e. sweep out into the oncoming traffic lane and back in so as to make the turning angle greater, remove the blindspot, and make it really obvious to all road users you're making a turn, or get the co-driver to guide you if the road is too narrow for that. There again, you're not allowed to overtake on the inside here, so maybe that'd not work for you, 'cause you'd have some loon stuffing their car under your trailer.
Being a bit of a petrol head I am also licensed to drive buses, artics, even a tank, and wonder why you'd go onto the road unassisted in such an older/poorly designed vehicle? Would suggest a mirror upgrade and a rearwards camera, certainly a co driver to help out. Also a rule we have that might help are that if the vehicle has such a blindspot you have to do "a left, to turn right", i.e. sweep out into the oncoming traffic lane and back in so as to make the turning angle greater, remove the blindspot, and make it really obvious to all road users you're making a turn, or get the co-driver to guide you if the road is too narrow for that. There again, you're not allowed to overtake on the inside here, so maybe that'd not work for you, 'cause you'd have some loon stuffing their car under your trailer.
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I'll stop running up the inside if you guys will stop going over the Dragon. Now THAT'S stupid! Ought to be dragged out and flogged with common sense until the urge is suppressed permanently. See tailofthedragon.com to watch what these fine truckers do. On my bicycle playground. Get back on the Interstate where you belong, why dontcha?
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Only if the U.S. gave cyclists such respect. Unfortunately, we're too rich and our civilization has been made to be too sprawled due to the influence of historically affordable gas prices and the natural vastness of the U.S. has made the bicycling minority subject to the tyranny of the much greater majority.
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no vehicle should hang out in another vehicle's blind spot
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I'll stop running up the inside if you guys will stop going over the Dragon. Now THAT'S stupid! Ought to be dragged out and flogged with common sense until the urge is suppressed permanently. See tailofthedragon.com to watch what these fine truckers do. On my bicycle playground. Get back on the Interstate where you belong, why dontcha?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIoN3vpX7zM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIoN3vpX7zM
Looks like these trucks cross double yellows on blind curves down a really twisty road.
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stop getting in our F#$^%@#^%& blind spots . we cant see you which means if you get runover we wont feel it or hear it. i almost got into a collision because the first asshat was trying to beat me to the corner i was already in the process of entering the turn and caused me to go into the incoming lane to avoid hitting him. he was well aware of what he did and sped off i got his bike memorized so if i see it riding around when im riding im gonna adjust his derailleur to the tallest gear.
I almost hit this; I almost hit that.
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stop getting in our F#$^%@#^%& blind spots . we cant see you which means if you get runover we wont feel it or hear it. i almost got into a collision because the first asshat was trying to beat me to the corner i was already in the process of entering the turn and caused me to go into the incoming lane to avoid hitting him. he was well aware of what he did and sped off i got his bike memorized so if i see it riding around when im riding im gonna adjust his derailleur to the tallest gear.
Shouldn't this whinge be on truckforums?
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And once again we see the "we do no wrong" attitude of the typical AnS clown.
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The truck who left turn/cut off'ed me on Rt 1 to get into Publix
yesterday could see me very well. All that was missing was
a finger gesture and '***' comment.
yesterday could see me very well. All that was missing was
a finger gesture and '***' comment.
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And then how would you transport the freight from the rail to its destination?
There's far too much freight to be transported by rail unless we vastly increase the rail infrastructure. And that's not feasible.
There's far too much freight to be transported by rail unless we vastly increase the rail infrastructure. And that's not feasible.
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The OP's point remains. Be careful around large vehicles!
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For once, Sledbikes has a legitimate complaint. I'm honestly shocked at the attitude some of you guys have towards passing anyone, let alone a semitruck driver preparing to turn right, on the right. Haven't we learned anything here?
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Reason 5,000,000 of why lanes are good.
If a truck passes you to turn right and you
need to brake, it has broken a law. If there
is a cop who actually cares, the truck will
rightfully be fined.
The thread is the OP's version. The cyclists version might-will- differ.
If a truck passes you to turn right and you
need to brake, it has broken a law. If there
is a cop who actually cares, the truck will
rightfully be fined.
The thread is the OP's version. The cyclists version might-will- differ.
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Passing on the right without a bike lane puts at least some burden on the passer. If there's a LANE, be it traffic or bike the burden clearly lies on the vehicle turning right. If there isn't, then both parties have some burden, but most of it on the one passing. A blind spot is a responsibility to be handled, not an excuse.
Folks driving large trucks often behave as if their mass entitles them to special treatment. Tailgating is "OK" for truckers. Especially if trying to muscle someone out of the way. Blocking traffic to make deliveries, even if it completely blocks bike lanes, handicapped parking, or other features one isn't supposed to ignore. Perhaps the most disturbing is the assumed right of way to pull to the right when slowing up hills on the Interstates. A large rig will rocket down a hill, often in excess of legal and rational speed, occupying the passing lane, frequently tailgating other road users or using high beams in an attempt to intimidate. Then they slow up the subsequent rise, and start signaling right. At this point, they seem to expect the adjacent traffic to slow and let them in, so the rig can slow more, trapping the traffic behind them. This is an incorrect and rude thing to do. The passing vehicle is burdened and must slow, then move politely behind the traffic already in the primary travel lane.
I used to give rigs a great deal of leeway and courtesy. Behavior in recent years has led me to treat them just as any traffic and not cut rigs any particular break unless I feel like it. I'm a polite and cooperative road user, but I'm not going to go out of my way to slow or let in a big rig just because they're hard to drive and have different characteristics. They can obey the rules like everyone else.
And persistent problems resulting from knowing violation of common sense and road markings are simply intolerable. Like driving over the dragon, across the line, off the edge, endangering everyone. That takes ignoring common sense and warning signs.
Folks driving large trucks often behave as if their mass entitles them to special treatment. Tailgating is "OK" for truckers. Especially if trying to muscle someone out of the way. Blocking traffic to make deliveries, even if it completely blocks bike lanes, handicapped parking, or other features one isn't supposed to ignore. Perhaps the most disturbing is the assumed right of way to pull to the right when slowing up hills on the Interstates. A large rig will rocket down a hill, often in excess of legal and rational speed, occupying the passing lane, frequently tailgating other road users or using high beams in an attempt to intimidate. Then they slow up the subsequent rise, and start signaling right. At this point, they seem to expect the adjacent traffic to slow and let them in, so the rig can slow more, trapping the traffic behind them. This is an incorrect and rude thing to do. The passing vehicle is burdened and must slow, then move politely behind the traffic already in the primary travel lane.
I used to give rigs a great deal of leeway and courtesy. Behavior in recent years has led me to treat them just as any traffic and not cut rigs any particular break unless I feel like it. I'm a polite and cooperative road user, but I'm not going to go out of my way to slow or let in a big rig just because they're hard to drive and have different characteristics. They can obey the rules like everyone else.
And persistent problems resulting from knowing violation of common sense and road markings are simply intolerable. Like driving over the dragon, across the line, off the edge, endangering everyone. That takes ignoring common sense and warning signs.
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At least link to a video; lazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIoN3vpX7zM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIoN3vpX7zM
Looks like these trucks cross double yellows on blind curves down a really twisty road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIoN3vpX7zM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIoN3vpX7zM
Looks like these trucks cross double yellows on blind curves down a really twisty road.
Now as somebody that use to drive Moving vans...you people screaming about convex mirrors and other BS have NO idea what you are talking about.
DO NOT get beside a truck at a light. When they swing left to get the rear axles to clear the curve you become invisible. If you were already sitting in his blind spot you do not exist.
If you cannot look at the driver in the mirror and make eye contact you are invisible. ACT THAT WAY AND DO NOT PUT YOURSELF IN A POSITION WHERE YOU WILL GET HIT! Hell you are a moron to even do that with a soccer mom in a mini van. If you cant get directly in front of the first car to get across the intersection you are just asking to get a right hook.
Yes I do run up the right when its safe. Mostly when there is a dedicated right turn lane where the traffic has already sorted.
Take the lane and line up behind the last car if the right Lane has any chance of right turns happening. You keep screaming "same rights" well act like a car and drive like one at an intersection and you will last longer. Also why make cars pass you a second time. Line up where you came up just like a car till you clear where you can get the hook then get back over.
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Over here the rules are if a cyclist is coming up your inside, the right turning vehicle has to stop, as the cyclist has the right of way. Most vehicle on bike accidents are when the driver fails to do this. Such accidents are rare because of training and the penalties on the driver if they fail to comply. A government minister actually lost their car license and had to retake the driving test after failing to give way and had such an accident.
Being a bit of a petrol head I am also licensed to drive buses, artics, even a tank, and wonder why you'd go onto the road unassisted in such an older/poorly designed vehicle? Would suggest a mirror upgrade and a rearwards camera, certainly a co driver to help out. Also a rule we have that might help are that if the vehicle has such a blindspot you have to do "a left, to turn right", i.e. sweep out into the oncoming traffic lane and back in so as to make the turning angle greater, remove the blindspot, and make it really obvious to all road users you're making a turn, or get the co-driver to guide you if the road is too narrow for that. There again, you're not allowed to overtake on the inside here, so maybe that'd not work for you, 'cause you'd have some loon stuffing their car under your trailer.
Being a bit of a petrol head I am also licensed to drive buses, artics, even a tank, and wonder why you'd go onto the road unassisted in such an older/poorly designed vehicle? Would suggest a mirror upgrade and a rearwards camera, certainly a co driver to help out. Also a rule we have that might help are that if the vehicle has such a blindspot you have to do "a left, to turn right", i.e. sweep out into the oncoming traffic lane and back in so as to make the turning angle greater, remove the blindspot, and make it really obvious to all road users you're making a turn, or get the co-driver to guide you if the road is too narrow for that. There again, you're not allowed to overtake on the inside here, so maybe that'd not work for you, 'cause you'd have some loon stuffing their car under your trailer.
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I'll stop running up the inside if you guys will stop going over the Dragon. Now THAT'S stupid! Ought to be dragged out and flogged with common sense until the urge is suppressed permanently. See tailofthedragon.com to watch what these fine truckers do. On my bicycle playground. Get back on the Interstate where you belong, why dontcha?
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been there they did show me a few street sweeper maneuvers for A#@$@%%^ city cyclists and jaywalking peds. i just got this truck so i havent been able to mount the 6 behind the grill horns to alert cell phone chatting pedestrians or darting bikers to my presence.
i might take someones idea of mounting my bike to the front of the rig to keep people from getting their guts all over it
i might take someones idea of mounting my bike to the front of the rig to keep people from getting their guts all over it
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yes, the world revolves around you . . .
being upset about it is one thing, but to ***** to people who have NEVER messed with you makes you an immature little prick. And threatening people is ridiculous, nobody responds to it. so keep those symbols going, but nobody is going to take you seriously unless you act like you're sincere.
being upset about it is one thing, but to ***** to people who have NEVER messed with you makes you an immature little prick. And threatening people is ridiculous, nobody responds to it. so keep those symbols going, but nobody is going to take you seriously unless you act like you're sincere.
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So why can't the truckers in your area use them properly.
Amazing how they even work in garages to see around blind corners, provided people actually look at them.
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yes, the world revolves around you . . .
being upset about it is one thing, but to ***** to people who have NEVER messed with you makes you an immature little prick. And threatening people is ridiculous, nobody responds to it. so keep those symbols going, but nobody is going to take you seriously unless you act like you're sincere.
being upset about it is one thing, but to ***** to people who have NEVER messed with you makes you an immature little prick. And threatening people is ridiculous, nobody responds to it. so keep those symbols going, but nobody is going to take you seriously unless you act like you're sincere.
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<Rodney King> Can't we all just Share the Road?!?!?!? </Rodney King>
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