"None So Blind" from Scientific American
02-19-04, 09:16 PM
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Every lane is a bike lane
Originally Posted by closetbiker
It happens all the time. Cars see me. I see them see me. They go anyway.
As I mentioned earlier, education is the issue here. The main reason drivers don't "see" cyclists is because they don't want to. There needs to be a fundamental change to licencing requirements -- if a failure to "see" a cyclist either on the road or on a simulation was grounds for instant failure of the driving test, you can bet it would be a lot less common than it is now.
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02-19-04, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by John C. Ratliff
I was in the bicycle lane, approaching an intersection... Approaching the intersection, I was going about 15 mph...A black sedan with a woman driving went by me, and I watched her closely. She looked left, then turned exactly in front of me as I was going to go straight through the intersection. She completely cut me off, forcing me to stop.
Wow, missed by just inches, and only because I was watching her through the whole thing.
Wow, missed by just inches, and only because I was watching her through the whole thing.
John's experience represents perhaps the greatest potential problem with car lanes that turn across bike lanes at intersections. The key is to ride as if there is no bike lane when you are approaching the intersection.
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02-20-04, 09:54 AM
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Closetbiker said:
Isn't one of the most basic issues in safe cycling that you should assume no one will act as if they see you?
Isn't one of the most basic issues in safe cycling that you should assume no one will act as if they see you?
Originally Posted by John C. Ratliff
Exactly this happened to me this afternoon going back to work.
... missed by just inches, and only because I was watching her
...It was a close one, and makes me more interested in perception and driving.
John
... missed by just inches, and only because I was watching her
...It was a close one, and makes me more interested in perception and driving.
John
The same thing happens to me not only on my bike, but in my small car as well (funny how it has never happened to me when driving large trucks)
That's just the way things work and a reason to be an advocate for making sure rules are followed on the road. We are traffic and have the same rights and responsibilities on the same roads.
02-20-04, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tom cotter
Riding motorcycles has made me an extremely defensive driver and rider. Much of what is learned in the Motorcycle Safety Foundation's basic rider course can be applied to bicycles. Some of that information, like making eye contact with a motorist who is waiting to pull into traffic is good stuff that many of can benefit from
I agree with those that believe that it is a matter of, "it can't hurt me so I'm not worried." I believe that because I've been cut off on the motorcycle at night before. And when you are coming right at their driver door at night with a bright (60W) headlight, you can't believe that they didn't see you.
02-20-04, 11:40 AM
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This week, I got the right hook, too. I know the guy saw me because he accellerated as he passed. He was just too impatient to wait his turn.
After the right hook, he quickly turned into his company parking lot. I followed him until he parked. I planned to give him "the lecture," but I was thought he might feel threatened by a ski-masked & goggled interrogator. I also realized the company whose lot I was in did military research, and I didn't want to deal with the kind of security those places have.
After the right hook, he quickly turned into his company parking lot. I followed him until he parked. I planned to give him "the lecture," but I was thought he might feel threatened by a ski-masked & goggled interrogator. I also realized the company whose lot I was in did military research, and I didn't want to deal with the kind of security those places have.
02-20-04, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Daily Commute
This week, I got the right hook, too. I know the guy saw me because he accellerated as he passed. He was just too impatient to wait his turn.
I know it only helps so much when your the one heading towards the pavement but I know that I would be twice as angry if i knew the driver did it knowingly and not out of stupidity.
