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Old 09-07-08, 08:13 PM   #1
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WOW! I thought we were supposed to encourag biking...

Saw a big group of road cyclists riding a road run today. My wife and I were out riding our converted Mt. Bikes for fun and recreation. We went by the ending spot or a rest stop for the touring group. We wave and say "nice to see y'all out riding. How long is the ride?"

Stone , blank stare. Not just ignored, actively snobbed and dismissivley stared down.

I guess our khaki shorts and t-shirts do not rank us to be addressed by the royalty in their nice, colorful uniforms. Nice way to encourage riding.
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Old 09-07-08, 08:16 PM   #2
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Shoulda bared your bottom to em.
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should join the club and buy a real road bike and lycra
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Old 09-07-08, 08:24 PM   #4
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should join the club and buy a real road bike and lycra
I hope you're joking. I don't care what they were riding or looked like there's no excuse for this kind of snobbery. Why would they want to "join the club" after being treated like this?
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I considered a road bike, but for my commute and the riding I do with the wife and kid, the Mt. bike with semi-slicks made more sense.

Besides, if they would have me in the club it isn't worth joining.
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jethro, Aaaah yes, the dreaded `elite` riders. I`m afraid yours was not a rare encounter. No matter how friendly you are, if you don`t look `serious` you`ll not be given the time of day. It`s a matter of fashion. Nothing more. That`s about the sad state of things. Keep on enjoying the sport in whatever way you choose. Cheers.
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Old 09-07-08, 08:27 PM   #7
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Ugh. Jerks like those are why I'm in no hurry to join cycling clubs. The moment one cyclist starts thinking s/he's better than another because s/he rides a more expensive bike or wears colorful spandex, that cyclist does more harm than good, and is one karma strike away from being run over. See my sig.
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Since when is it the duty of road cyclists to "encourage cycling"? I don't recall signing any evangelical literature to save the masses when I picked up my road bike. Is this expected in other sports? Are golfers and downhill skiers supposed to be encouraging their sports? It sounds like you enjoy riding why do you need the encouragement of complete strangers to validate your experience? Did you ever think they might be tired or enjoying the company of their friends and didn't feel like being cycling ambassadors?
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Hey, when I was a young guy, that stuff might have bothered me. I'm 44 now. I have a life I am satisfied with. I get to ride my bike to work this year. Play around a little on weekends with it and just enjoy the fun. I laugh off snobbery in any circles, not just biking. I prefer to spend my energies in more positive ways.
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Since when is it the duty of road cyclists to "encourage cycling"?
I suspect by "encourage", Jethro was simply referring to the customary behavior in polite society to acknowledge the salutations of others, rather than to ignore such well-mannered exhortations in favor of actively staring down people in rebuke. In other words, the ability to behave, if for the briefest of moments, like something other than a group of lycra-sheathed buttholes would have sufficed. Yet somehow, even this was too much. : D
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Oh, and I didn't mean to offend the roadies who think I am saying they d
should be ambassadors. I just said that where I was raised when someone says hi and is genuinely being friendly, you at least nod back.
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I suspect by "encourage", Jethro was simply referring to the customary behavior in polite society to acknowledge the salutations of others, rather than to ignore such well-mannered exhortations in favor of actively staring down people in rebuke. In other words, the ability to behave, if for the briefest of moments, like something other than a group of lycra-sheathed buttholes would have sufficed. Yet somehow, even this was too much. : D
that chip on your shoulder must weigh like 50lbs pounds. how do you live with that thing on there?

the way your talking, maybe these people should be strung up and hung to death. they obviously don't even deserve to be alive in "your" world.
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should have rang your bell at them
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the way your talking, maybe these people should be strung up and hung to death.
You can keep the strawmen. Basic politeness shouldn't be anathema. Hopefully these and other cyclists will realize that someday. : D
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Basic politeness shouldn't be anathema.
Couldn't agree more. Have enough f'n common courtesy to at least acknowledge someone for chrissake if they offer a greeting.
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Your big mistake was saying hi and being genuinely friendly, how could you not know that "serious" roadies would rather ride aluminum and wear helmets with less than 26 vents than acknowledge your existance you khaki-shorted, t-shirted noob...next time, avert your eyes as you walk past, and mumble your apology for being married and with children...when we adopted a 1 yr old girl 5 years ago, I could sense my former riding buddies discreetly moving away from me when I showed up to the evening fitness rides, I was no longer worthy...
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This issue of roadie snobs comes up often. Just let it go.

I've met many more friendly cyclists than unfriendly cyclists while out riding. Roadies included .
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i run into them every now and then theyve been a lot more respectfull on the mup ever since they got served by the local off road rift raft.

last one i saw i said nice bike and he snubbed me so i told him and a "**** you to you too" and rolled off.
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same thing

i've had the same thing happen plenty of times, in the bike store, on the road, at the USA Pro Championship.
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I rode in the Jackrabbit Stampede Saturday. It is one of these charity rides that bills itself as a race. Of course, 90% of the people there aren't even trying to race, but some do.

Anyway, I'm riding a cruiser bike on the 40 mile route. The 62 mile route makes an extra loop and then comes back down that same route. So being slow, sure enough, after a while, I get passed by a couple of guys just flying like the wind, who presumably were in the lead on that 62 mile route. As they came up on me, they said "On your left", I shifted slightly to the right and they said "thanks" as they zipped on by. It was another five minutes or more before anyone else came by.

I thought it was neat that the two fastest guys out there could and did speak, but a lot of the guys behind them didn't bother.

In the OP's case, maybe this was a foreign bicycling tour group that didn't understand English?
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yeah, most I have met are pretty cool about everything. This was just not a friendly group I guess.
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True story: I am 50 years old. I met a guy here on the Forum, who is about 23 yrs old, and we now are good bicycle partners. He recently has returned from riding across the US with just one other friend, and no support vehicles, and camped out most of the way from NC to CA. He rode over 4,000 miles from April to July. I guess you could describe him as a "serious rider". The difference is, that he is friendly to just about everyone. On his tour of the US, he made hundreds of new friends, because that is the type of guy he is.

When he first came back to KC from his ride, he and I went out riding one day on a road outside of town. My friend suddenly took off ahead of me, and started riding next to another bicyclist who had came by. This unknown bicyclist/stranger had panners on the front and back, a canvas slouch hat, khaki shorts, and an iPod pluged in to his ears. It turns out that this stranger was a college student from Japan. He had just came to the US one month earlier, and started in NYNY and was on his way to LACA. He spoke almost no English. My friend and I took him to the next town to eat hamburgers, and helped him plan his way on the map. (He was lost)


The Japanese traveler did not wear Lycra, and was riding an old Giant bike with fenders. The Lycra and Spandex crowd on thier $2,000 carbon fiber bikes probably wouldn't talk to him, either.
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There is a group of swimmers at the pool where I swim with exactly the same attitude. I'm not a real swimmer because I do 4000 yards in a workout and 100 yard repeats on 1:15.

The funny thing is these guys question my sanity when I tell them of swimming in the North Sea without a wetsuit...

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This is one reason that I avoid group rides, like the MO150, or what ever the hell it is, that is coming up. I would rather go ride with a good friend, and follow my own path. I get alergic to Lycra.
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that chip on your shoulder must weigh like 50lbs pounds. how do you live with that thing on there?

the way your talking, maybe these people should be strung up and hung to death. they obviously don't even deserve to be alive in "your" world.
What the he|| are you talking about? It was just a remark about basic courtesy.
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