No hands cyclists wiggles in and out of his bike lane
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No hands cyclists wiggles in and out of his bike lane
And frustrates me as I'm trying to pass him (in my car). I don't want to honk because he could get startled and crash.
He's riding on the bike lane line in an out of the road and can't keep the bike straight. Who in the world rides with no hands for about 30s in the bike lane/shoulder with a bunch of traffic next to them?
He's just asking for an early death doing that kind of stuff.
He's riding on the bike lane line in an out of the road and can't keep the bike straight. Who in the world rides with no hands for about 30s in the bike lane/shoulder with a bunch of traffic next to them?
He's just asking for an early death doing that kind of stuff.
Last edited by adamtki; 10-20-08 at 01:37 PM.
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Just wanted to add that he was trying to adjust something (take gloves off?) as opposed to doing tricks. But he should just pull over to do that!
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Sheesh, what's with the road rage? Just pass safely and continue on to your destination and allow him to do the same.
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Nothing wrong with no hands riding--as long as you can control your bike. Maintaining a steady line should be a precondition of riding, with hands or without.
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30 seconds...
well that wasn't too long. Maybe he was sending a quick text message.
well that wasn't too long. Maybe he was sending a quick text message.
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By your own admission, he delayed you all of 30 seconds. You've already spend more time than that whining about it. You need to get over it. And we as cyclists need to get over the idea that everybody on a bicycle is an ambassador for our subculture.
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Siding with the OP on this one. Swerving in and out of traffic is stupid and reckless whatever the reason may be. If he can't keep his bike in a straight line he should not be riding in traffic.
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Yet if this was a driver who was busy adjusting stuff in his car and spent 30 seconds swerving in and out of the bike lane, I bet most people on this forum would be advocating nothing short of a court martial.
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I'd honk at him. He's hampering the flow of traffic, like a motorist who's swerving while looking for something that fell on the floor.
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NYS VTL requires at least one hand on the bar, but I've never seen it enforced.
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Just because a person is on bicycle does NOT mean they are above reproach if they behave in a irresponsible manner.
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Yet it's not a waste of time to complain about motorists who drive irresponsibly?. I don't see the difference. An idiot is an idiot, regardless of their mode of transportation.
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if it wasn't really a bike lane, maybe he was just taking his rightful place on the road? I don't know if I would even believe the word "swerve" was applicable. You can only turn so tightly no handed before you fall. Maybe he was just not keeping a straight line.
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Clearly you're to blame.
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Yes, the cyclist's riding was inadequate. No, there was no need to honk. Yes, growing frustrated at a thirty-second delay is worth being concerned about.
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Mind you a little tap, not fall asleep on the wheel honk. Enough to be like "dude you're all over the road".
It's poor riding if he's weaving in and out of lanes, just dangerous. Less about time and more about ending up under a car's tire.
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did he look back prior to swerving? Maybe he was taking advice of some people on this forum who say when you want a motorist to notice you and pass you safely you swerve in a controllable manner. Either way 30s is not that long.
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The OP is lucky to have seen such an accomplished rider. NHDLLP (No Hands DLLP) is a very advanced technique. It is a variation of Dynamic Lateral Lane Positioning (DLLP), a tactic advocated by a former poster to this forum who was banned some time ago, probably for making up silly names for stupid techinques.
Last edited by JRA; 10-21-08 at 01:06 AM.