Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 23 of 23
  1. #1
    One speed: FAST ! fordfasterr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Ft. Lauderdale FL
    My Bikes
    Ebay Bikes... =)
    Posts
    3,375
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    The story of a homicidal cager...

    I want to see how this ends as much as anyone else, so here goes.


    A friend of mine as told me what happened to him recently, and I am really worried about him, and how this may turn out.
    Here goes:

    On the way home, a car buzzed and honked at him. He took a shortcut to the next street to get a closer view of the car/driver/tag and the driver noticed him, steered his car directly at him at full speed and my friend dove out of the way just in time within just inches of this crazed cager. He was not able to get the tag # because of the high speed and relative adrenaline that just went through him. He was able to snap a picture of the back of the car with his cell phone just as the car drove away but not close enough to get the tag.

    He called the police, gave them the description and explained what happened. The police officer who saw him told him that without any accident, or bodily injury that it would be unlikely that anything could be done. The officer would not write a report.

    The following day, my friend spotted the same car, at the same time, on the same road and noticed that it parked just a few blocks away at a bar. He was able to get the tag, but did not confront the driver. Then he went home and later told me exactly what is written here.

    Now here is where the no-nonsense part of this post is most important:

    What can he do?

    What should he do?

    What would YOU do?
    Florida Velodrome Association.
    Big Wheel Cycles.
    CAT-2. Road Bike: 2011 Specialized Allez SRAM Apex. .. and yes, I am vegan.

  2. #2
    RacingBear UmneyDurak's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    NorCal
    Posts
    8,134
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by fordfasterr View Post
    I want to see how this ends as much as anyone else, so here goes.


    A friend of mine as told me what happened to him recently, and I am really worried about him, and how this may turn out.
    Here goes:




    Now here is where the no-nonsense part of this post is most important:

    What can he do?
    Legally? Not much. Police won't do anything for reasons stated above.

    What should he do?
    His best bet for the future is to get a helmet mounted camera. That way it's not just his word vs drivers word.
    What would YOU do?
    Take a deep breath and move on, or call non emergency line and report the guy for dunk driving when he leaves the bar. The dude is probably regular.
    I see hills.... Bring them on!!!
    Stay calm and bring a towel.

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    857
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    He should have called the police not to complain of an irresponsible driver, but attempted murder. Unfortunately, there isn't much he can do because there was no damage, which I think is a little bit BS. What happens when somebody attempts to shoot you with a ***, but misses?

  4. #4
    uke
    uke is offline
    it's easy if you let it. uke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    indoors and out.
    Posts
    4,125
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
    call non emergency line and report the guy for dunk driving when he leaves the bar. The dude is probably regular.
    +1. Police take drunk driving far more seriously than dead cyclists. If you want to start a file on him, this is what you do.

    JesseDuncan:I just love how "cars will be forced to cross the double yellow lines on dangerous limited visibility roads".

    I don't want to have a head on but oh god, I HAVE to fling myself into oncoming traffic to pass, theres no alternative!!!

  5. #5
    Cycle Year Round CB HI's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Honolulu, HI
    Posts
    11,420
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You guys know where he does his drinking. Keep checking the bar and the next time his car is there, wait until he leaves, call 911 and report a drunk driver weaving down the road almost causing an accident.

    Don't even mention your on bikes.

  6. #6
    Biker, Lover, Fighter
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    The LBC, CA
    My Bikes
    My own hand built frames
    Posts
    414
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    +1 for calling the cops on him as a drunk driver.

    When you speak with the police always be very polite, can't even hurt to call the cop sir/maam. This might placate their ego a bit and make them more likely to help you. Always maintain a respectful, if not submissive demeanor. If you're rattled and your adrenaline is pumping wait a few minutes to collect your wits prior to contacting the police. Once you realize they are not going to do anything ask for their name and badge number and that you would like to speak with their supervisor. It might go nowhere and cause you much headache, but the cop you interact with on the street or the person at the desk at the local police station is not the end of the line.

  7. #7
    Bicycle Repair Man !!! Sixty Fiver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    YEG
    My Bikes
    See my sig...
    Posts
    26,131
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Our respective authorities have to start recognizing vehicular assault and attempts to do so as very serious crimes...write your representative, mp, or whatever politician you think might get some things done to change the laws.

    I have had a few folks purposely try and take me out... I have been lucky in that I am fast and very agile and have avoided becoming road kill.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Berkeley, CA
    My Bikes
    Raleigh Mojave 2.0, Dahon Speed D7
    Posts
    169
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
    call non emergency line and report the guy for dunk driving when he leaves the bar. The dude is probably regular.
    i like this idea
    2008 Raleigh Mojave 2.0

  9. #9
    my brain hurts! fosmith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Oak Knoll
    My Bikes
    Numerous bicycles.
    Posts
    679
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    set the car on fire.

  10. #10
    Perineal Pressurized dobber's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    In Ebritated
    Posts
    6,556
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I like the part about the shortcut. Gives the story the bull**** feeling it deserves.
    This is Africa, 1943. War spits out its violence overhead and the sandy graveyard swallows it up. Her name is King Nine, B-25, medium bomber, Twelfth Air Force. On a hot, still morning she took off from Tunisia to bomb the southern tip of Italy. An errant piece of flak tore a hole in a wing tank and, like a wounded bird, this is where she landed, not to return on this day, or any other day.

  11. #11
    One speed: FAST ! fordfasterr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Ft. Lauderdale FL
    My Bikes
    Ebay Bikes... =)
    Posts
    3,375
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by dobber View Post
    I like the part about the shortcut. Gives the story the bull**** feeling it deserves.
    It's true.

    The shortcut involves getting off of his bike, running up a 30 foot hill and then the same road comes by it again!.


    The cager was on his way up the hill and my friend was right there waiting for him.
    Florida Velodrome Association.
    Big Wheel Cycles.
    CAT-2. Road Bike: 2011 Specialized Allez SRAM Apex. .. and yes, I am vegan.

  12. #12
    smatte
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Central Ma
    My Bikes
    diamondback - sherwood
    Posts
    166
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    File a complaint with the DMV. Even if the police won't do anything, the DMV can pull his license, they don't need an accident to happen.

  13. #13
    "Per Ardua ad Surly" nelson249's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Kitchener, Ontario
    My Bikes
    Bianchi Specialissima, Mongoose Hilltopper ATB, Surly Cross-Check, Norco City Glide
    Posts
    1,407
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Loosen the valve cores
    1997 Mongoose Hilltopper, 1988 Bianchi Specialissima, 2006 Surly Cross-Check, 2010 Norco City Glide, 1947 CCM Single-speed.

    "Take him to the forge and show him the instruments"
    Bernardo Gui, Inquisitor The Name of the Rose

  14. #14
    50000 Guatts of power 127.0.0.1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    1,001
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    this
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by 127.0.0.1; 10-24-08 at 08:46 AM.
    I like fat bikes
    and I cannot lie.

  15. #15
    One speed: FAST ! fordfasterr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Ft. Lauderdale FL
    My Bikes
    Ebay Bikes... =)
    Posts
    3,375
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by srmatte View Post
    File a complaint with the DMV. Even if the police won't do anything, the DMV can pull his license, they don't need an accident to happen.
    Can you explain this process in a little more detail? I don't understand what he would tell them, and what they would (or you expect them to) do?


    Quote Originally Posted by nelson249 View Post
    Loosen the valve cores


    That fall under the " what would YOU do? " section .

    lol
    Florida Velodrome Association.
    Big Wheel Cycles.
    CAT-2. Road Bike: 2011 Specialized Allez SRAM Apex. .. and yes, I am vegan.

  16. #16
    Senior Member Newspaperguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    British Columbia, Canada
    Posts
    2,206
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would have called the cops and reported the motorist for erratic and dangerous driving. Where I live, the police take those calls quite seriously and would have been on the lookout for the motorist.
    Life is good.

  17. #17
    smatte
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Central Ma
    My Bikes
    diamondback - sherwood
    Posts
    166
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    [QUOTE=fordfasterr;7724670]Can you explain this process in a little more detail? I don't understand what he would tell them, and what they would (or you expect them to) do?


    Get the address to the main state dmv office. There is a complaints department. In a letter, describe the incedent, include as many details as possible. They can take action against the abuser, they may choose to send a warning letter, they can issue a citation, they may do nothing.

    Cost of letter = 42 cents
    citation issued = priceless
    nothing happens = wish you had a helmet cam

  18. #18
    genec genec's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    san diego
    My Bikes
    custom built, sannino, beachbike, giant trance x2
    Posts
    22,724
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by dobber View Post
    I like the part about the shortcut. Gives the story the bull**** feeling it deserves.
    Maybe, maybe not. I've been able to catch up to motorists because of shortcuts... either they didn't know the area and the roads or there was a real shortcut that is only available to peds and cyclists. It happens.

  19. #19
    Part-time epistemologist invisiblehand's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Washington, DC
    My Bikes
    Jamis Nova, Bike Friday NWT, STRIDA, Austro Daimler Vent Noir, Haluzak Horizon, Salsa La Raza, Hollands Tourer, Bike Friday tikit
    Posts
    5,192
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by srmatte View Post
    Get the address to the main state dmv office. There is a complaints department. In a letter, describe the incedent, include as many details as possible. They can take action against the abuser, they may choose to send a warning letter, they can issue a citation, they may do nothing.

    Cost of letter = 42 cents
    citation issued = priceless
    nothing happens = wish you had a helmet cam
    Interesting. I recall a local police program against aggressive driving here where they encouraged such reporting and promised follow up, but thought that it was a special one-time program. I hope that I am wrong.

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    3,192
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    A civil suit, in small calims court, for assault might really change that drivers attitude. He can get the car owners name/address from DMV. bk

  21. #21
    Senior Member dougmc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Austin, TX
    My Bikes
    Giant OCR2, Bridgestone RB-T, Bike-E, Vision R-40, Novara Safari
    Posts
    3,005
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Newspaperguy View Post
    I would have called the cops and reported the motorist for erratic and dangerous driving. Where I live, the police take those calls quite seriously and would have been on the lookout for the motorist.
    Throw in that the guy seemed drunk or high. And if he turns out to not be drunk, well, you're not trained to spot drunks, are you? But why else would a person attempt to charge a cyclist beyond being drunk? (It's a rhetorical question, but `road rage' is less well defined than drunk.)

    Normal motorists do not intentionally attempt to kill (or maim, hurt or even scare) cyclists.

  22. #22
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    126
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Drive and park near the bar next time you see his car parked there. Wait for him to start driving, then follow him and call the police with his location and say that he's weaving all over the road and you believe he's drunk. Hope he gets arrested for DUI.

  23. #23
    Senior Member WPeabody's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Monterey Bay area, California
    My Bikes
    Terratrike Tour, recumbent tadpole tricycle.
    Posts
    523
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If you have his tags, file a complaint.
    If the driver does it again to your friend or someone else, the first complaint will be on file, in case there is a more serious incident and that file can help in any possible court case.
    What do you call a cyclist who sells potpourri on the road? A pedaling petal-peddler.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •