Not protected by the police
03-23-04, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris L
I don't know the system in California, but if that ever happened to me out here I'd be taking my complaint to a higher level -- just the same as I would if I got no satisfaction from my dealings with any other organisation.
If I were you I'd be taking my complaint (including the report of the incident and the name of the unco-operative officer) to a higher ranking official within the force.
If I were you I'd be taking my complaint (including the report of the incident and the name of the unco-operative officer) to a higher ranking official within the force.
03-23-04, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Daily Commute
I agree that the cop acted irresponsibly. At a minimum, he should have made a detailed report with names and statements for future use. I just want to separate fair and unfair criticism. Assault, by itself, is usually a misdemeanor, but the knife might move it up to a felony (I plead ignorance of California law).
When he speaks to the prosecutors, I think jdr needs to emphasize that his assailants had a knife. I know a car is dangerous, but pulling a knife takes the thing to a whole new level.
Most cops do a decent job most of the time. Let's not make an enemy of all of them. This cop messed up. Hopefully jdr follows up with a complaint. Given the volatile situations cops find themselves in, and the quick judgments they have to make, I'm surprised they don't make more mistakes.
When he speaks to the prosecutors, I think jdr needs to emphasize that his assailants had a knife. I know a car is dangerous, but pulling a knife takes the thing to a whole new level.
Most cops do a decent job most of the time. Let's not make an enemy of all of them. This cop messed up. Hopefully jdr follows up with a complaint. Given the volatile situations cops find themselves in, and the quick judgments they have to make, I'm surprised they don't make more mistakes.
There have been several instances in California in the last year where a person drove a car toward a police officer, and was immediately shot dead for doing it. I guess police officers are special people with special privileges, and more important than the common person. The pulling of the knife in California is felonious assault, and would be "Strike One" toward three strikes and you stay in prison for life.
Why would the officer think the road rage involved both sides? Did the cyclist flip the driver the finger? What occured that would give him/her this idea? Not that two people in a situation would ever lie to get out of trouble.
03-23-04, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dchiefransom
Why would the officer think the road rage involved both sides? Did the cyclist flip the driver the finger? What occured that would give him/her this idea? Not that two people in a situation would ever lie to get out of trouble.
03-23-04, 10:32 PM
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I would be as ticked off at the officier as the assailants..This could have evolved into something serious...LIke assault...I would be speaking to the sargeant at the police office, right away.Please, don't let this pass and let us know of what occurs.If not for yourself then for all of us.
03-25-04, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by madpogue
So what? Flipping the finger is stupid. It may be illegal. It might be the kind of thing that the police, as they claim, can't investigate since they didn't see it. But "the finger" is NOT A WEAPON. So what if the road rage involved "both sides"? One side used a WEAPON!
03-26-04, 09:43 AM
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FYI,
What constitutes Assult and/or Battery?
I yell, "I'm going to kick you!" = Assault
I actually DO kick you = Battery
What constitutes Assult and/or Battery?
I yell, "I'm going to kick you!" = Assault
I actually DO kick you = Battery
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03-26-04, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ChipRGW
FYI,
What constitutes Assult and/or Battery?
What constitutes Assult and/or Battery?
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