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Old 12-22-08, 06:59 AM   #1
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Psych prof

I was talking to a psychology prof on the plane and he was telling me of a research project they did last year in AZ, and i am greatful he let me copy the notes. They looked at professional drivers who were known to speed and they charted their speeding patterns using GPS for 9 months. Whenever a driver sped the GPS issued a SMS and/or email to the researchers. These guys were salesmen who had to drive from one client to the next. These guys were considered professional drivers because they had to drive for business.

The prof said all speeders aren't consider equal and he ranked speeders in the following categories: conservative speeder, moderate speeder, agressive speeder. I dont know how he ended up ranking the drivers he told me about but I'm just wanting to know if you guys were to look at the drivers below what category would you put each of them in? also wanting to know which one of them you would probably say is most bike friendly lol?

Driver A was a 36 year old male who sped nearly 100% of the time when he was on city and rural roads, but never sped on the highway. He almost always drove 50-55mph in 35mph zones, in 20mph zones on rural roads he tended to drive 40mph, on highways with 75mph speed limits he stayed very close to the speed limit.

Driver B was a 39 year old male who would speed roughly 50% of the time, he sped on all types of roads. In 35mph zones he would normally do 50-55mph, in 50mph zones he would normally do 70-75mph, in 75mph zones he would do 95-105mph

Driver C was a 47 year old male who tended to speed about 50% of the time. He sped on all types of roads but tended to speed most on intermediate roads where the limit was 50mph. In a 35mph zone he tended to stay near 35mph but might get up to 45mph on rare occassions. In a 50mph zone he tended to get up to 70-75mph(even 80mph a couple of times), in 75mph zones he might get up to 100 on occassion


Driver D was a 42 year old male who did almost all city driving. In a 35mph zone he tended to do 45mph, but did get up to 65mph on numerous occassions when he was in a 35zone. In 50mph and in 75mph zones he tenfed to follow the speed limit

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Old 12-22-08, 07:23 AM   #2
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I wanna know where they find these idiots because most of the commercial drivers don't speed that much except on the highways, and that is a rarity. Psych prof wanted to scare a living crap out of you, but here, it didn't work. Most of the commercial drivers are very reasonable. Psych profs are scary people.
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Old 12-22-08, 07:26 AM   #3
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Driver D tends to be most consistent. The runner-up is Driver C. I definitely wouldn't want to be anywhere near the first two.

Speeding is dangerous, period, both for drivers and cyclists alike.
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Old 12-22-08, 08:08 AM   #4
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I wanna know where they find these idiots because most of the commercial drivers don't speed that much except on the highways, and that is a rarity. Psych prof wanted to scare a living crap out of you, but here, it didn't work. Most of the commercial drivers are very reasonable. Psych profs are scary people.
Wow, defensive much. I think that these aren't UPS truck drivers they're salesmen. I'm guessing they tended to drive the same cars the rest of us do so they'd appear indistinguishable from any other car: Except that they all should lose their license for excessive speeding.
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Wow, defensive much. I think that these aren't UPS truck drivers they're salesmen. I'm guessing they tended to drive the same cars the rest of us do so they'd appear indistinguishable from any other car: Except that they all should lose their license for excessive speeding.
Oh yea, the salesmen. I'd like to know what kind of salesmen those people would be. If they are really that fast, then they really need to slow down, because that is fast. In my experience, the people who drive that fast are usually the ones that drive really fast cars and that is rare, at least in my area. I rarely account for someone to go more then 45 in, let's say, 30 mph zone.
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Old 12-22-08, 01:18 PM   #6
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Oh yea, the salesmen. I'd like to know what kind of salesmen those people would be. If they are really that fast, then they really need to slow down, because that is fast. In my experience, the people who drive that fast are usually the ones that drive really fast cars and that is rare, at least in my area. I rarely account for someone to go more then 45 in, let's say, 30 mph zone.
I sail with a guy that covers most of San Diego county as part of his drug sales business... he used to have Imperial county too... which meant a lot of driving... I have driven with him on some of our long distance sailing races. This guy not only drives fast (and I mean FAST) but he is constantly on the cell phone. Last year I volunteered to do the driving for the crew on the trips... he still took his own car... apparently you can't pry him out of it.

Years and years ago I went with a sales manager of our company to visit a client... I was the engineering talent, he of course was "marketing..." Similar situation... another bat out of hell behind the wheel. This was just before cell phones were ubiquitous... but I imagine when they did come out later... he would be glued to it.

There are folks like this all over the place. I can't stand to be a passenger in my sister's car either. She sells real estate... on the cell all the time and she has this propensity of looking right at you when she talks. Yup, while she's cruising down the road, she takes her eyes off the road and talks to you.

From my limited experience, these kind of folks will never change their driving habits unless something terribly radical happens to them.

BTW none of these folks drive a "fast car." My sister drives a Volvo... she just drives fast.
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Exactly. A Kia will do 120. Cars not got much to do with it.
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Psych prof on a plane, right. Just happened to have your hand scanner with you so the psych prof would let you copy down the data on an unpublished study which, as it just so happens, the information was stored on hard copy rather than in a statistical analysis package. Right.

Interesting thought question. I just wish you had been a little more honest about it, instead of transparently fraudulent.
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Old 12-23-08, 02:31 PM   #9
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Psych prof on a plane, right. Just happened to have your hand scanner with you so the psych prof would let you copy down the data on an unpublished study which, as it just so happens, the information was stored on hard copy rather than in a statistical analysis package. Right.

Interesting thought question. I just wish you had been a little more honest about it, instead of transparently fraudulent.
Or maybe on a long flight, he had time to hand write (copy) some of the profs notes. Not everyone needs a hand scanner to copy something.
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Old 12-24-08, 12:21 AM   #10
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is it awful of me to not consider what any of them do to be even close to excessive speeding?
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And here I am trying still trying to get the dang speeding camera in the school zone to trip for me every day.
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I think driver C is the safeest to be around IMHO. BTW pulling someones license doesn't stop them from driving
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Old 01-03-09, 11:44 AM   #13
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Nice story.

Funny that the researcher did not happen to mention where the study was published and the OP, who had so many other details, did not happen to provide author names or a specific institution.
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Old 01-03-09, 11:54 AM   #14
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I would be interested to know if these guys are driving company vehicles or their own. I've known people that would speed excessively in a company vehicle, yet drive reasonably safe in their own vehicle.
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