baron von trail 

Sympathy for the thief? Are you serious? A repeat offender who throws a wheelchair-bound person to the ground, so as to rummage through his pockets? Wow!

No wonder the wing-nuts fear that us being governed by too many liberal views will lose us our country.

baron von trail 

I will repeat what I alluded to earlier. If a thug goes to rob someone, and, per chance, lightening strikes him dead, I would rejoice in the moment. The bad guy finally got what he deserved; God does exist.

If a thug goes to rob a nun, and Joey pulls out a Glock and blows the POS's brains all over the sidewalk, I would vote for Joey to be locked up. I'd call it murder; not something to celebrate.

If a thug goes to rob a guy in a wheelchair, tosses him to the ground and ticks off a passing cyclist, who then stops, punches the thug in the face, causing thug to crack his skull and die....Kay-sa-ra-sa-ra

stevo9er

I don't understand this thread. Money is just money, material things are just things. How is a the taking of a life justified over a few bucks?

Have none of you ever dealt with addiction directly or indirectly? Have you never read about our prison systems and how they focus on punishing people rather than rehabilitation? Can you not fathom that people find themselves in situations where they have nowhere to turn?

A friend of my brothers who was addicted to Meth robbed our house, stole our check books (which made dealing with the bank difficult for a year or so), gun, jewelry, cash, etc. A couple years later after he was off drugs and trying to get his life back together, it was hard to get employment, so my parents let him do work on our house to make money... He is now working and getting a college education.

This happens all the time. People get into bad situations they feel they can't get out of, and usually no one cares, not the state, not their families, not you, and they make bad decisions.

baron von trail 

For me it's all about him picking on a guy in a wheelchair. I feel that is the vilest act, lowest of low, sort of on par with beating up on a woman. That's my gripe, and why I have no sympathy for this perp. And, yes, even applaud his demise.

I actually agree with you on the rest. Nor, am I in any way a law and order guy. Far from it. I think we have too many cops on the street. Just a thought, but maybe we would need fewer cops if the average Joe refused to coddle criminals....

Bottom line for me is that those people who seek out and abuse weaker individuals really are the scum of the earth.

BTW: all those wishing to show compassion, I suggest showing it to the fella stuck in the wheelchair. He is the guy who has to wheel that thing through this rough neighborhood, on a daily basis, dealing with predators like this now dead thug.

UnsafeAlpine

So know, after countless posts, you finally agree that you celebrate his death?

Remind me never to run into you in real life. I find that people that have so little regard for human life are people I don't want to meet.

On that, I'm out. This thread is just too disgusting.

stevo9er

We would need less cops if there was less inequality.

baron von trail 

And...we would have less inequality if the avg Joe refused to let the big shots get away with their crimes and exploitation schemes. Just the other day GF and I were discussing how the Wall Street wonders used to pat each other on the backs for all those schemes that they came up with while those around them gave praise. Not so much today.

In fact, GF is up to her eyeballs studying just such a scheme as I write this. It has to do with Monsanto GMO's resulting in a failed corn crop in South Africa. I imagine a million people will now be starving due to that one.

But...none of that has anything to do with pushing a guy in a wheelchair to the ground. Now, if the guy had pushed a certain previous vice president to the ground......

CommuterRun

Oh yeah, forgot about it being all my fault, sorry.

The difference is, and I can't believe this has to be explained, while the cyclist may or may not be in compliance with all applicable traffic laws, is not engaged in performing an act of violent crime.

I'd vote for Joey for public office. The Right to self-defense does extend to defending others. Now if Joey shows up, the thug runs away, then Joey shoots him it's an entirely different matter.

Precisely.

BTW: The cops aren't the bad guys; the criminals are. As long as the cops are law abiding, then it doesn't matter how many there are. Everyone could be a cop if there were no criminals and no one would be in danger.

Less inequality does not mean there will be fewer bad people. In fact it very well could make matters worse.

JoeyBike

Obviously, there are many types of people in this world. Some are sympathetic to the whole human drama, some are not, and some are driven by their situation. For instance.

A very conservative middle aged lady was a co-worker of mine many years ago (once upon a time if you will). She was all about capital punishment. One night, her scumbag of a son decided to steal a motorcycle from someone's carport. That someone came home, with some friends and caught him in the act. Well, six broken ribs, a ruptured spleen, fractured skull, broken arm, and several broken fingers later...he spent months in the hospital.

After she told me the story she asked me (rhetorically) "Did they have to beat him up SO bad?"

My take: You steal from people, you takes your chances on what they (or a bystander) will do if they catch you.

baron von trail 

Yeah, me too. In fact, I sort of see this whole bad guy dying from a single punch as a great cause celbre worthy of mention in those now famous darwin awards. Oh...I forgot, I am scum for celebrating this POS's demise. (BY the way, people, that was a bit of a joke, as in toungue in cheek) Sheesh.

On a serious note: Applauding a repeat offender's exit from our reality and declaring it good riddance is NOT celebrating a person's death. I think that the person trying to paint me as some monster has serious issues; her logic is literally scrambled.

I pity anyone who has to deal with that on a daily basis....

apricissimus 

Yet you've been denying that you're glad the guy's dead. No wonder you're hard to argue with. You take multiple sides simultaneously as it suits you.

There you go again, assuming that those who disagree with you have no sympathy for the victim here. This was an unwarranted assumption to begin with, but even after being told otherwise, you still assume this. Kinda shows that reasoning with you is pointless.

Seriously, where are you getting this from?

apricissimus 

Is English your first language?

baron von trail 

More of a math brain than a word-smith, actually. Not to mention, I usually treat these I-net discussions rather lightheartedly, but I have been known to toss out my share of biting quips. Let me guess...I think I know what you are driving at.

Since you really do seem rational and are also quite polite, I will try to be as clear as I can without being a smart sass.

I do not celebrate a person's death in any serious vein as in go "Hurrah hurrah, el-scumbo bit the dust!" No. I really feel bad that anyone had to die. It is a real shame. And, the poor good Samaritan will probably end up catching a lot of grief because of all this.

That being said: I do applaud that the bad guy died instead of the poor schmuck in the wheelchair. In fact, I will even go so far as to say that I am quite happy that the POS offender didn't get away with his crime. I am more relieved of that than I am concerned with his death.

I am relieved not because I give a snoot about money. No, I am just glad that this sasswipe can no longer torment anyone in a wheelchair or **** young boys in prison (which I'll bet the farm is exactly what he did while he was in lock-up).

The fact that he died is good riddance -- especially, for those who wheel by in chairs on his turf.

Why is this so hard to understand? Do you think that this thug would not have continued harassing weak, defenseless individuals? Come-on, you are smarter than that.

baron von trail 

Here's one that came to mind as I pedaled my pick-up truck to the grocery.

Big pain in the sass guy beats his wife regularly after a dozen beers. One night he comes home, drunk as a skunk. As he winds up to deliver a nice hard punch to poor little Lilly's face, he slips and tumbles down the stairs. Well, shoot, as luck would have it, he breaks his neck and dies before reaching bottom.

Anyone here going to cry over this POS's demise?

mikewille

I wouldnt go so far as to laugh at the thug's funeral or dance on his grave, but if given the opportunity, I sure as hell would buy the punching cyclist vigilante a beer or two. I'd ride with him any day. We could even ride over and check up on the wheelchair guy. ---Also would'nt shed a tear over the Lilly-puncher either.