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    Tough guy

    A little good press for a cyclist.

    Knock-out punch of robbery suspect turns deadly

    Willoughby Mariano | Sentinel Staff Writer
    6:01 PM EDT, March 20, 2009
    A knock-out punch from what police described as a "good Samaritan" defending a wheelchair-bound man during a robbery turned out to be fatal, an Orlando police spokesman said today.

    Witnesses said Timothy Nickerson, 40, was in his wheelchair March 5 about 12:20 a.m. near West Washington Street and North Terry Avenue when Patrick Erwin Trice, 47, took his money and knocked him down, Sgt. Barbara Jones said.

    A passing bicyclist noticed the attack, punched Trice, then pedaled away. Trice fell to the ground, and an officer found him unconscious and bleeding from the mouth and nose, Jones said. The money was in Trice's right hand. He was taken to Florida Hospital Orlando and died two days later.

    Police asked the public for help identifying the man who delivered the punch and eventually found him. Jones did not release his name, saying his identity is part of an open investigation.



    The death appears to be justifiable homicide, Jones said, but there has been no official ruling. The case is being forwarded to the Orange-Osceola State Attorney's Office for review.

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    wow.

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    Guess you DON'T need 2 tons of metal to be fatal.

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    :jawdrop::jawdrop:
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    What's frightening is how coherent Hickey was in posting that.

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    That kind of sucks for the biker. I'm sure he didn't mean to kill the guy, but now he'll have that hanging over his head for the rest of his life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benc View Post
    That kind of sucks for the biker. I'm sure he didn't mean to kill the guy, but now he'll have that hanging over his head for the rest of his life.
    If I had ever killed or seriously injured an innocent victim, I would indeed "have that hanging over [my] head for the rest of [my] life." However, I would feel far less remorse under the scenario cited, a justifiable accidental homicide in which I was valiantly protecting an innocent victim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John E View Post
    If I had ever killed or seriously injured an innocent victim, I would indeed "have that hanging over [my] head for the rest of [my] life." However, I would feel far less remorse under the scenario cited, a justifiable accidental homicide in which I was valiantly protecting an innocent victim.
    I can agree with this. The dude robbed a guy in a wheelchair... I'd have no problem knowing I accidentally killed him.

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    If I killed such vermin, with a punch, I'd be damn proud of myself!!!!

    Feel good story of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benc View Post
    That kind of sucks for the biker. I'm sure he didn't mean to kill the guy, but now he'll have that hanging over his head for the rest of his life.
    That's something that I'd be proud to have hanging over my head for the rest of my life. Some people need to be taken out. A lot of people, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodsBassist View Post
    I can agree with this. The dude robbed a guy in a wheelchair... I'd have no problem knowing I accidentally killed him.
    Quote Originally Posted by trekker pete View Post
    If I killed such vermin, with a punch, I'd be damn proud of myself!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chriswnw View Post
    That's something that I'd be proud to have hanging over my head for the rest of my life. Some people need to be taken out. A lot of people, actually.
    Posting such garbage proves none of you have ever killed anything more than an insect... not even someone who "deserved" it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavy View Post
    Posting such garbage proves none of you have ever killed anything more than an insect... not even someone who "deserved" it.
    Wow, judging three of the nine previous posters in one fell swoop! That has to be some kind of a record, even for A&S.

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    It must've been Deebo from Friday.

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    Sorry, not worth a few bucks to me.

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    I've always felt stealing a couple bucks and knocking someone out of a wheelchair definitely deserves the death penalty...

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    I agree that street vengeance isn't the answer, but that's not really what happened here. The cyclist stepped in and defended the guy with his fists and accidentally killed him. Whether or not he 'deserved' it is a judgment call, but if I were in the same situation and accidentally killed a guy while he was robbing somebody who was handicapped, I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

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    It is a stange report. The bicyclist punches the guy, then rides away without helping the victim get up or giving the victim back his money? odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavy View Post
    Posting such garbage proves none of you have ever killed anything more than an insect... not even someone who "deserved" it.
    Amen. Those who talk about death in that way never lived it.

    Quote Originally Posted by crackerdog View Post
    It is a strange report. The bicyclist punches the guy, then rides away without helping the victim get up or giving the victim back his money? odd.
    Cyclist probably realized he did a lot more damage than he intended and got panicked.

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    What you guys are neglecting here is that the robber obviously did not wear a helmet.
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    My best friend is a vet. He has killed people who were trying, actively, to kill him and he has that hanging over his head to no small effect.

    Sometimes you have to fight. Sometimes people die, but armchair heroics are pretty empty. I have no respect for a guy who robs someone and pushes over his wheelchair, but if I killed him in retaliation, I don't think I'd be pumping my fist in the air, shouting, "Hell, yeah!"

    The robber may have deserved the retaliation, but death? I feel sorry for the Good Samaritan. Good on him for trying to do the right thing, though. I hope he suffers no legal problems from this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerlenbach View Post
    A little good press for a cyclist.

    A passing bicyclist noticed the attack, punched Trice, then pedaled away. Trice fell to the ground, and an officer found him unconscious and bleeding from the mouth and nose, Jones said. The money was in Trice's right hand. He was taken to Florida Hospital Orlando and died two days later...
    Death from a simple fall with little to no forward momentum.

    Sounds like Trice should have been wearing a helmet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GodsBassist View Post
    if I were in the same situation and accidentally killed a guy while he was robbing somebody who was handicapped, I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
    Until you actually did it. Then I guarantee you would lose a lot more than sleep.

    Go back to your armchair, commando.
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    Another worthless pile of poop off the streets. Good job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    I've always felt stealing a couple bucks and knocking someone out of a wheelchair definitely deserves the death penalty...
    I suppose you also feel that anyone in a wheelchair should stay at home where they will be safe from those innocent folks just trying to steal a few bucks for a meal.

    I always enjoy the comments of criminals activists like you.
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    In other news, AnS crowd up in arms over draconian ticketing of cyclists who run traffic lights
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    Quote Originally Posted by GodsBassist View Post
    I can agree with this. The dude robbed a guy in a wheelchair... I'd have no problem knowing I accidentally killed him.
    The dude has a mean punch. I thought cyclists didn't do much weight lifting.. Mixed feelings.. Robbing a wheel chair victim is done by scum... The rider should have been wearing generic lycra and shades, plus a helmet. They say we all look alike..
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