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Old 03-28-09, 04:25 PM   #1
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Yet another reason to not buy bikes at Walmart

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I know a guy that was invited to go mountain biking, only he had no bike. So he purchased one from a local xxx-mart, went riding with the tags still on, and returned it the next day for a full cash refund. No questions were asked. I guess it can favor in either direction depending on the location. I'll be sure to steer clear next time I'm in Oklahoma.
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If you're going to buy a department store bike, I can vouch for the Forge from Target. I've put around 320 miles on mine so far, and it's great. Looking forward to breaking the $1/mile barrier this spring.
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Another reason not to buy anything from Walmart.
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If you're going to buy a department store bike, I can vouch for the Forge from Target. I've put around 320 miles on mine so far, and it's great. Looking forward to breaking the $1/mile barrier this spring.
That's a little less than two week's worth of riding... I would hope the bike's intended to last more than a couple of weeks!

You really need to beware of big-box-store bikes. One reason is that to keep the cost low, they use cheap materials, the other is that they're more often not assembled right, to the point they're not safe to ride out of the store.

I live near what's probably the world's worst Wal-Mart anyhow, but here is a sampling of their wares over the past holiday season:



Note the unique configuration of the fork on this bike... this one's from just before Christmas of '08.






Here's a group from a couple of weeks ago... noting that on nearly every bike, the brake levers are installed backwards. Yeah, these are kids' bikes, but would you trust your child with one of these?
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One reason is that to keep the cost low, they use cheap materials, the other is that they're more often not assembled right, to the point they're not safe to ride out of the store.
Not cheap materials so much as cheap construction, though I've seen stuff that rivals it on some stock, so-called "bike shop" bicycles. My biggest nit with them are the cheap sidepull brakes on most of them. Sloppy FD's and triple cranksets come second. That said, provided they come with V brakes, they usually hold together if assembled properly.

Mind you, I said if assembled properly. From the start. I'd put assembly down as being a far bigger issue then the quality of the machines themselves. In fact, I need not justify this - your photos do that for me.


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Here's a group from a couple of weeks ago... noting that on nearly every bike, the brake levers are installed backwards. Yeah, these are kids' bikes, but would you trust your child with one of these?
Never mind that, how tight are the front V-brakes?

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P.S.: As for the link posted by the OP - managers such as the one in that article are not limited to Wal-Mart by any means. I'm not defending Wal-Mart, but mind you - the two events are far from being mutually exclusive. Bigger jerks often run local bike shops.
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Never mind that, how tight are the front V-brakes?
Need you ask? ;-0

They weren't. The bikes were pretty much slapped together and stacked in line.
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So another reason to avoid Walmart is that even if the local place has idiots, the district manager will step in and make sure that they follow corporate policy and accept returns?

Exactly why would that be a reason to avoid a particular chain????

How would it be better to go to a different store with no hierarchy to depend on? This actually sounds like Walmart stepped up to the plate and did what they needed to do, other than educating a couple of local idiots.

I am just a little confused on this one... the logic escapes me, but I am open to someone exposing how this proves the inherent evil of Walmart.
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Fork installed backwards? Someone really sells bikes with the fork installed backwards? Thats a new low. I wouldn't have believed it without the pictures.
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Fork installed backwards? Someone really sells bikes with the fork installed backwards? Thats a new low. I wouldn't have believed it without the pictures.
I would sort of see how a mornon might get the fork backwards. After assembly they could concievably ride the bike (I can only immage what that will do to stability), but having the brakes pointing every which way... that is completly beyond comprehension. How are you supposed to hold onto the handle bar. Even a complete idiot who has never seen a bike before should be able to figure that out. Is the supposed to hold onto the brake handle and then press down with my body to slow down...

The level of imcompetance in assembly at that store is beyond scarry. If they get the REALY obvious stuff put together this badly, then what about the other parts.

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I can only immage what that will do to stability
Stability? How about every time the top edge of a caliper (if a sidepull) slams the side of the frame?

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Walmarty quality varies based on location. My local Walmarty sells Treks and Specialized brand bikes. They have an experienced mechanic that sets up and sizes their bikes to each customer. They do all of this for 20-30% less than the local bike shop.


EDIT: I forgot to mention that they only do this one day a year... On April 1st.*

*and then not even!

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When I used to work for Sears, 20 years ago, I sold fitness equipment, including bikes. The guy that assembled them was a teenager, who didn't give a ***** about anything. I sold a bike to a woman for her little girl. That little girl's handlebars came off while she was riding! And of course, the brakes didn't work. So that was bad. If it was today, she would have sued the flying crap out of Sears, (maybe me too) and won.

I told our store manager, who was not very interested in my story. So I started assembling the bikes that I sold, myself, having never done that before. They had instructions, and I can read, so I just figured it out.

I think that just about any bike can be a good bike, if it is assembled correctly. Who knows? That teenager from Sears is now an adult, and Wally World might have hired him to assemble their bikes!
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Good laugh, that one. If WalMart can really repair a bike, then I can do surgery on my own brain using whiskey, scissors, and a mirror.
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While I wouldn't buy a bicycle from Wal-Mart, I've always been very satisfied with returns on other purchases made there. I once bought a Canon DSLR, two separate lenses, and additional memory cards. I used it for a week long vacation.....decided I didn't like it (nothing wrong with anything functionally) and returned the whole kit and kaboodle (including the memory cards) for a full refund. They never batted an eyelash. Try that at almost any other store.
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I think that just about any bike can be a good bike, if it is assembled correctly.
This is not the case. If a bike sells for less than $80 at walmart, that means it is being constructed and shipped to the U.S. for less than $20. It is not possible to do that and have a bicycle that works well for very long, if at all. The $200-$300 bikes seem to be reasonably good, although it does seem they cut corners on the wheels. A friend had a Walmart Schwinn Varsity that looked and rode pretty good, but the wheels were recalled.
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A friend had a Walmart Schwinn Varsity that looked and rode pretty good, but the wheels were recalled.
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That's a little less than two week's worth of riding... I would hope the bike's intended to last more than a couple of weeks!
Perhaps for you. I don't typically ride 26+ miles a day seven days a week. I've had the bike since October, and am quite happy with it.
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Perhaps for you. I don't typically ride 26+ miles a day seven days a week. I've had the bike since October, and am quite happy with it.
Well then, get with the program!
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but having the brakes pointing every which way... that is completly beyond comprehension. How are you supposed to hold onto the handle bar. Even a complete idiot who has never seen a bike before should be able to figure that out.
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I assumed they were not tightened enough so the idea was to bend the levers forward at some point. Maybe because of convenience for the one installing the cables. I have often seen loose levers in department store bikes.
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