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View Poll Results: Ride on shoulder or in lane?
On shoulder 52 59.09%
In lane 36 40.91%
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Old 04-15-09, 11:10 AM   #1
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Poll: ride on shoulder or in lane?

OK folks, first rule: do NOT post any comments or debates in this thread. There are already plenty of heated debate threads on the subject to choose from. This is obviously a divided subject on BF and I'm just curious to see where the majority lies.

So here's the question: there's a fine, clean shoulder next to the lane. It's wide enough to accommodate a bike. The law allows you to ride in the lane instead of the shoulder if you so choose. It's a country road, low to moderate car traffic going 40 to 50 MPH.

Do you choose to ride in the shoulder or take up the lane?
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Old 04-15-09, 11:16 AM   #2
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The lane is for moving traffic. I would ride in the lane. If a vehicle approached from the rear I would move to the shoulder if I was in a no passing zone or there was on coming traffic. Otherwise I would let it pass me as if i was a car. I would also only ride the shoulder if it was a surface compatible with the bike I was riding. Shoulders have many hidden road hazards. Glass being the biggest one. I ride the right tire track. the tire tracks are keep clean by traffic. Your chance of a tire problem is greater riding out of the track.
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Both. I would default to the center of the lane, and move to the shoulder when faster same direction traffic approached if it was safe and reasonable to do so.
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OK folks, first rule: do NOT post any comments or debates in this thread.?
Sometimes in the lane, sometimes on the shoulder.
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They love putting rumble strips on the shoulder for "Safety". In which case the shoulder is unrideable.
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So here's the question: there's a fine, clean shoulder next to the lane. It's wide enough to accommodate a bike. The law allows you to ride in the lane instead of the shoulder if you so choose. It's a country road, low to moderate car traffic going 40 to 50 MPH.

Do you choose to ride in the shoulder or take up the lane?
Under the fine clean shoulder contingency, I'd ride the shoulder.

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Old 04-15-09, 12:11 PM   #8
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OK folks, let's try this again:

first rule: do NOT post any comments or debates in this thread.
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Then give enough choices for a valid poll

Both.
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Both? How can you ride in both? A car can, but a bike only has two wheels. Its either in the lane or on the shoulder.

The question is pretty clear. Clean, fine shoulder wide enough for a bike. Period. Now if there was an obstruction in the shoulder one might go into the lane, but then it's not a "clean fine shoulder" is it?

So ... several renegade posters have said "both". With the powers vested in me, I will allow you to reply here. Given the exact wording of the question, please explain "both".
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So ... several renegade posters have said "both". With the powers vested in me, I will allow you to reply here. Given the exact wording of the question, please explain "both".

I did explain how I would ride both. Please re read.

Now no more comments or debates.
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My both for the same reasons others stated. Where to drive is not static, but changes based on ever changing environmental conditions.
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They love putting rumble strips on the shoulder for "Safety". In which case the shoulder is unrideable.
the rumble strips are for safety - if the driver falls asleep, the idea is the car runs over the strips and wakes them up. They are usually accompanied with strips in the middle of the road as well.

If I had to ride in a lane, I would only do it on very low traffic roads.
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Old 04-15-09, 01:38 PM   #14
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Both TBH, shoulder mostly, but while at speed I come out into the lane on descents, or in low speed limit places.
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Clearly "both" is the winner here. Sometimes the shoulder makes sense, sometimes the lane makes sense.

(And not only did I comment in this thread, I also didn't even vote in the poll )
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... OK, OK, I get the point about "both". However, the real issue is whether a bike chooses to obstruct traffic in the driving lane as opposed to using a perfectly good shoulder. Given that logic I'd put you "both" people in the "shoulder" voting character.

Regardless, it looks like about twice as many people go shoulder over lane. This is an eye opener for me, I expected it to be 90%+.
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... OK, OK, I get the point about "both". However, the real issue is whether a bike chooses to obstruct traffic in the driving lane as opposed to using a perfectly good shoulder.
Do I get to be the first to observe that the bike isn't obstructing traffic, it is traffic?

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OK folks, first rule: do NOT post any comments or debates in this thread. There are already plenty of heated debate threads on the subject to choose from. This is obviously a divided subject on BF and I'm just curious to see where the majority lies.

So here's the question: there's a fine, clean shoulder next to the lane. It's wide enough to accommodate a bike. The law allows you to ride in the lane instead of the shoulder if you so choose. It's a country road, low to moderate car traffic going 40 to 50 MPH.

Do you choose to ride in the shoulder or take up the lane?
I guess they didn't read that part.
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I guess they didn't read that part.
I have to confess that I read and registered the no debates part, but didn't realize that he didn't want comments as well. So I commented. A couple of times.

I promise not to engage in any debates.

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I guess they didn't read that part.
Read it, ignored it.

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I ride both....when the lane is clear, and smoother I ride it, but if there is enough traffic, then I take the shoulder.
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I guess they didn't read that part.
He's not a mod, welcome to forums where discussion happens.

You don't want discussion? Create an online polling place.


Also, I've seen... uh one guy in the lane on quiet residential streets in the last month. 45% my ass.
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The shoulder...I hate Z71s and f-150s. Especially given the ops description of the road and the speeds they're running. Take the lane down here and you're likely to get beaned in the head with a long neck bottle.
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OK folks, let's try this again:

first rule: do NOT post any comments or debates in this thread.
Sorry, this is a discussion forum...it doesn't work that way. But feel free to lobby the mods to change the forum guidelines concerning polls.
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