My Red Light Running Tutorial Vid got reviewd in Boston.
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My Red Light Running Tutorial Vid got reviewd in Boston.
The Boston Bicycle Transportation Examiner reviewed my Red Light Running Tutorial vid and was much kinder, no, actually found MERIT in the video. Better treatment than I get from most of the A.H.s around here.
Here is the LINK. Eat it.
Here is the LINK. Eat it.
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The Boston Bicycle Transportation Examiner reviewed my Red Light Running Tutorial vid and was much kinder, no, actually found MERIT in the video. Better treatment than I get from most of the A.H.s around here.
Here is the LINK. Eat it.
Here is the LINK. Eat it.
cool review. makes me happy to be from Boston. I wish more of us were so open minded. thanks for the link.
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the reviewer finishes up with
"Oh, and don't run red lights."
"Oh, and don't run red lights."
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Pretty much one block at a time. I might look ahead into the second block. Things change so fast that looking far ahead is a waste of time. What I "see" is probably comparable to a football QB. I am looking up the field for openings but at the same time seeing what is happening very close by all at once. It's hard to explain as I don't really understand it myself and the helmet cam does not tell the story of what my eyes are actually doing.
The only advice I could give someone wanting to try that kind of riding would be to ride sober and focus on the "now". If you can't keep extraneous thoughts out of your head, try again another day.
The only advice I could give someone wanting to try that kind of riding would be to ride sober and focus on the "now". If you can't keep extraneous thoughts out of your head, try again another day.
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Joey, that type of riding is definitely not my cup of tea. Even if I did that type of riding, I couldn't get away with it for very long since our town is too small, and just about everyone knows each other. At our last local cycling forum, the city, county, and state LEO's that were present stated that the would aggresively ticket redlight running cyclists as they would motorists.
At $275 just for the first pop, I would most definitely find other uses for that money other than lining the pockets of our city fathers even further.
At $275 just for the first pop, I would most definitely find other uses for that money other than lining the pockets of our city fathers even further.
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I would suspect that few US cities lend themselves to running red lights without regard for getting a ticket. Even large cities like Denver and New York wage war against cyclists. New Orleans is more like a self-cleaning oven. Cops here tend to let things run their course until Darwin strikes.
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I would suspect that few US cities lend themselves to running red lights without regard for getting a ticket. Even large cities like Denver and New York wage war against cyclists. New Orleans is more like a self-cleaning oven. Cops here tend to let things run their course until Darwin strikes.
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Pretty much one block at a time. I might look ahead into the second block. Things change so fast that looking far ahead is a waste of time. What I "see" is probably comparable to a football QB. I am looking up the field for openings but at the same time seeing what is happening very close by all at once. It's hard to explain as I don't really understand it myself and the helmet cam does not tell the story of what my eyes are actually doing.
The only advice I could give someone wanting to try that kind of riding would be to ride sober and focus on the "now". If you can't keep extraneous thoughts out of your head, try again another day.
The only advice I could give someone wanting to try that kind of riding would be to ride sober and focus on the "now". If you can't keep extraneous thoughts out of your head, try again another day.
I will look a couple blocks ahead for the status of the lights to see if I should speed up or relax because it's gonna turn anyway.
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Reviewer have to cover his ass.
Joey style of riding makes perfect sense for the conditions he's riding in. He doesnt pretend to be a car or a pedestrian, he knows exactly what he is driving, he knows his vehicle strength and weaknesses, he knows his terrain and his 'enemies', and he wages war in accordance to his advantages. I take some of Joey advice into my riding style (though honestly I lack the riding skills to ride like Joey) and I find myself a lot safer then when I was pretending to be a car.
Joey style of riding makes perfect sense for the conditions he's riding in. He doesnt pretend to be a car or a pedestrian, he knows exactly what he is driving, he knows his vehicle strength and weaknesses, he knows his terrain and his 'enemies', and he wages war in accordance to his advantages. I take some of Joey advice into my riding style (though honestly I lack the riding skills to ride like Joey) and I find myself a lot safer then when I was pretending to be a car.
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Works fine in low speed fairly low density city grid traffic.
It would work in my downtown (and I know I have done the same when younger, more nimble, and faster)
Won't work at all on the typical 50+ MPH multi-laned "urban freeways" (arterial roads) we have outside of downtown... except perhaps during well off peak traffic hours. (yes, at times even those roads can be near empty) At commuting times however, steady high speed traffic makes this sort of red light running impossible around here.
It would work in my downtown (and I know I have done the same when younger, more nimble, and faster)
Won't work at all on the typical 50+ MPH multi-laned "urban freeways" (arterial roads) we have outside of downtown... except perhaps during well off peak traffic hours. (yes, at times even those roads can be near empty) At commuting times however, steady high speed traffic makes this sort of red light running impossible around here.
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I have a problem with what the video's author seems to be advocating. If I demand a right to the lane and that motorized vehicles respect my right to the lane and treat me as anther vehicle don't I then have the responsibility to adhere to the same rules that I want the cars to obey.
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I have a problem with what the video's author seems to be advocating. If I demand a right to the lane and that motorized vehicles respect my right to the lane and treat me as anther vehicle don't I then have the responsibility to adhere to the same rules that I want the cars to obey.
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I dunno I do this at work all the time in my car, visualizing how many times I could easily make it across red lights safely.
But you know, acknowledging that I'm breaking a law and all I don't do it.
If red was yield though the roads would be heaven for me.
Also I do see how much easier it is to do this in city streets where cars seem so sluggish, around almost anywhere else you'd need to be aware that someone is going to come blowing through at 45 mph one time. I also do it multiple blocks up being as iffy cycles can make me change my route.
TBH: If you don't so much as disrupt the flow of traffic, you're fine, if someone so much as touches their brakes, you fail.
Which that argument immediately put bikes in the bike lane only. If it's a vehicle, treat it as such, if not, bike lane.
But you know, acknowledging that I'm breaking a law and all I don't do it.
If red was yield though the roads would be heaven for me.
Also I do see how much easier it is to do this in city streets where cars seem so sluggish, around almost anywhere else you'd need to be aware that someone is going to come blowing through at 45 mph one time. I also do it multiple blocks up being as iffy cycles can make me change my route.
TBH: If you don't so much as disrupt the flow of traffic, you're fine, if someone so much as touches their brakes, you fail.
Which that argument immediately put bikes in the bike lane only. If it's a vehicle, treat it as such, if not, bike lane.
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Reviewer have to cover his ass.
Joey style of riding makes perfect sense for the conditions he's riding in. He doesnt pretend to be a car or a pedestrian, he knows exactly what he is driving, he knows his vehicle strength and weaknesses, he knows his terrain and his 'enemies', and he wages war in accordance to his advantages. I take some of Joey advice into my riding style (though honestly I lack the riding skills to ride like Joey) and I find myself a lot safer then when I was pretending to be a car.
Joey style of riding makes perfect sense for the conditions he's riding in. He doesnt pretend to be a car or a pedestrian, he knows exactly what he is driving, he knows his vehicle strength and weaknesses, he knows his terrain and his 'enemies', and he wages war in accordance to his advantages. I take some of Joey advice into my riding style (though honestly I lack the riding skills to ride like Joey) and I find myself a lot safer then when I was pretending to be a car.
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That doesn't follow at all. The question remains, why should all vehicles have to abide by the same set of rules when they have vastly different sets of capabilities and limitations? Simply classifying them all as "vehicles" doesn't mean they are at all similar.
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I have a problem with what the video's author seems to be advocating. If I demand a right to the lane and that motorized vehicles respect my right to the lane and treat me as anther vehicle don't I then have the responsibility to adhere to the same rules that I want the cars to obey.
What you're saying certainly makes sense from the auto drivers perspective and given that our transportation system is "autocentric" cyclists are pretty much resigned to accept this status quo or ride like an outlaw (ie. Joeybike et al).
But the reality that is often ignored is that a cyclist is a human powered vehicle and really is subject to other parameters that the auto is not. Therefore logically we really should treat most traffic lights differently, stop signs differently, lane use differently and even, occasionally find ourselves on sidewalks and pathways inaccessible to the auto. This POV is, unfortunately, not terribly "political" and would probably go over like a lead balloon with the general public and even among some cyclists but it's far more realistic and pragmatic than all of us adhering to the same set of rules.
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Now, if you want mad motorists here, stop at the light IN FRONT of them! They will be blowing horns before the light turns green.
My riding style is very polite. I do my best to stay out of their way.
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No one is pissed off that I am aware of. At least, no one is blowing their horn or anything. In my town, my style really is not an issue.
Now, if you want mad motorists here, stop at the light IN FRONT of them! They will be blowing horns before the light turns green.
My riding style is very polite. I do my best to stay out of their way.
Now, if you want mad motorists here, stop at the light IN FRONT of them! They will be blowing horns before the light turns green.
My riding style is very polite. I do my best to stay out of their way.
I have been hassled by the cops for taking the lane, but that lasted about a week and went away when I didn't.
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Taking a Lane vs. Obstructing Traffic. I bet there is a really blurry line between those two concepts in the minds of cops. I am glad you wore them out on that issue.
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While different vehicles may have different laws, generally they have a main set of laws that are similar pertaining to traffic flow and safety.
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If you look through JoeyBike's videos you'll find one where a pickup ran a stop sign in front of him. JoeyBike had plenty of time to react, dodge around the rear of the truck, and even comment on it for the benefit of his video audience. But somehow, it incensed him that a car should do what he feels is perfectly fine doing himself. So he swore at the driver and punched the rear of the truck.
If it's okay for a biker to make his own judgement about when it is okay to run red lights and stop signs, then it is equally okay for an automobile driver to make a similar judgement. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. People who advocate the concept that everyone make up their own rules are advocating for total anarchy in the streets.
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