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    20+mph Commuter JoeyBike's Avatar
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    Moving Violations Counted (VIDEO)

    One of my commutes last week was strangely devoid of auto traffic which allowed me to bike my whole route without breaking stride. However, I did break a few laws (anyone surprised). So I edited the vid with a "violation counter" on the bottom right corner to make it easy for y'all to keep count while you watch and learn how EASY it is to run the lights and stop signs when there is virtually zero cross traffic.

    This vid is actually relaxing. Nice cycling flow with some calming "Yoga" music and not one "Oh My God" moment.

    This is my ENTIRE commute minus a few blocks on both ends. It is sped up 2X so my 16 minute ride is reduced to 8 minutes of video.

    NOLA MVC (Moving Violation Count)

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    You seem like you are proud that you do not obey the rules of the road.

    Sad, very sad. You may be here now, but it only takes one car flying through a green light to make road pizza out of you.

    Also, when you crossed under the freeway (while riding on the trolly tracks, I might add...another violation), each access road should count as a seperate violation.

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    Awesome !

    Thanks for sharing, joeybike !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin2020 View Post
    You may be here now, but it only takes one car flying through a green light to make road pizza out of you.
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    Correct. Which is why one should never run a red light unless you can see that you have enough room to safely do so (and, I would add, that you're not causing any inconvenience to vehicles with the right of way).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyBike View Post
    "violation counter"
    I think some of the newer cycle computers come with this option. Violations per minute, total violations etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin2020 View Post
    Sad, very sad. You may be here now, but it only takes one car flying through a green light to make road pizza out of you.
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    Do you seriously think joey runs trough a red blindly like a moron? It's not that hard to check if the way is clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aMull View Post
    Do you seriously think joey runs trough a red blindly like a moron? It's not that hard to check if the way is clear.
    It makes me wonder whether there are people who let traffic lights do all the thinking for them, rather than being constantly vigilant and observant, no matter the situation.

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    The helmet cam makes it clear the rider lacks the skill of maintaining situational awareness. I hope no one depends on his continued well being.
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    Far too many brother, far too many have been sucked into believing the lights will make you safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin2020 View Post
    ...it only takes one car flying through a green light to make road pizza out of you.
    Cars run lights and stop signs all the time here. But since I am looking for THEM and not at the color of the lights, they will be very challenged to "pizza" me. I never assume anyone will stop at anything. I look at their motion - that does not lie.

    I look both ways, then cross the street. Lights and signs are irrelevant to my safety. There is my message.

    Here is a still capture from my vid named: "Out Of The Fog" at 4:25. Notice my shiny green light! By process of elimination, what color do you think HIS light was? You know what's funny? I never even noticed I had a green light until the fifth time I watched the finished video! Never noticed it during editing either. Why? Because the color of the light is, as always, irrelevant to my safety.



    I am currently (slowly) collecting all of the footage like the one above for an "Outlaw Motorist" video. I have TONS of material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcottay View Post
    The helmet cam makes it clear the rider lacks the skill of maintaining situational awareness. I hope no one depends on his continued well being.
    Well, the rider is over 50 and has been doing this style riding consistently since he was a teen, and has an extremely low accident rate relative to other cyclists. The camera doesn't give a good idea of the vision field.

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    Cool music.

    Another subtlety about your video that most people won't pick up on is that even when you have the right of way, you still look for crossing traffic in case they are running a red light or a stop sign, and never rely upon your right of way to keep you safe, but instead you rely on your eyes.
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    Since watching the videos I have begun to look less at the lights and more at cars and the situation. I still stop at most lights unless I am making a left (UK) or it is a set of pedestrian lights, but these videos have taught me to be more aware and for that I thank you.

    I can't wait until I get my camera so I can get some of these reckless drivers ticketed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by San Rensho View Post
    ...never rely upon your right of way to keep you safe, but instead you rely on your eyes.
    Exactly. See my screen capture 4 posts up^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by San Rensho View Post
    Another subtlety about your video that most people won't pick up on is that even when you have the right of way, you still look for crossing traffic in case they are running a red light or a stop sign, and never rely upon your right of way to keep you safe, but instead you rely on your eyes.
    Word, if there was a commandment for this style of riding, this would be it. Never assume you're safe, always look to have or create a couple escape routes for all contingencies.

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    Not saying that I would not have done exactly as you did in some of those situations, all that I am saying is that it is much more likely for a car to fly through a green light than through a red one. Obviously both happen...
    A couple of those intersections (if I am not mistaken, that was I-10 you crossed under), I would not have run against the light. The opposing traffic is simply traveling too quickly (if the speed limit is 45, then count on traffic doing 60+), and there is simply not sufficient line of site to clear far enough out for that.

    Never say you are too good or too lucky. I rode a motorcycle for 25 years with no accidents or incidents. But when I had one, it was a doozy, and completely not my fault...

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    Quote Originally Posted by San Rensho View Post
    Another subtlety about your video that most people won't pick up on is that even when you have the right of way, you still look for crossing traffic in case they are running a red light or a stop sign, and never rely upon your right of way to keep you safe, but instead you rely on your eyes.
    Quote Originally Posted by TRafficJammer
    Never assume you're safe, always look to have or create a couple escape routes for all contingencies.
    Right, and running red lights is not a requirement for doing this. Let's not pretend that scofflaw riders have some kind of monopoly on safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin2020 View Post
    Never say you are too good or too lucky. I rode a motorcycle for 25 years with no accidents or incidents. But when I had one, it was a doozy, and completely not my fault...
    It's those "not my fault" accidents that I am trying to prevent with my riding style. IMO, and in some instances only, a sitting duck on a bike at a red light is just begging to be steamrolled from behind. Or clipped with a side-view mirror. Or punched in the throat and robbed.

    Sorry 'bout your MC wreck. Pinned under hot exhaust pipes was a fear of mine during my MC years. When I am cycling, I am not thinking about being too good, luck, or anything but the matter at hand - survival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmostTrick View Post
    Right, and running red lights is not a requirement for doing this. Let's not pretend that scofflaw riders have some kind of monopoly on safety.
    Was anyone? We're more about saying how being safe is unto your own devices as opposed to blind adherence to The Word O' The Law.
    We're more railing against the 'OMG you ran a red why aren't you dead' crowd. Reds can be run, and quite safely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin2020 View Post
    You seem like you are proud that you do not obey the rules of the road.

    Sad, very sad. You may be here now, but it only takes one car flying through a green light to make road pizza out of you.

    Also, when you crossed under the freeway (while riding on the trolly tracks, I might add...another violation), each access road should count as a seperate violation.

    I have never heard of anyone getting knocked off their bike by a traffic light...

    A light has never hurt anyone, to blame them for someone getting hit is a little silly

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    I'm curious what's gonna happen when you slam into a fellow cyclist coming from the green light direction. When you two collide, will you yell at him?

    This is a serious question, Joey. You say you look for cars, it's easy to miss another cyclist. Your brain can only process a certain amount of information and you will be unlikely to see a cyclist. So as proud as you are of avoiding getting creamed by a car, just remember, you aren't the only guy on a bike out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    You say you look for cars, it's easy to miss another cyclist. Your brain can only process a certain amount of information and you will be unlikely to see a cyclist.
    Um, nobody looks specifically for cyclists where I live (I typically see one other cyclist every two weeks, despite riding several hours a week). And yet somehow, I'm still here.

    And honestly, it's pretty hard for two cyclists to collide - at speeds less than 20mph, any potential collisions are easily averted by peripheral vision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    I'm curious what's gonna happen when you slam into a fellow cyclist coming from the green light direction. When you two collide, will you yell at him?

    This is a serious question, Joey. You say you look for cars, it's easy to miss another cyclist. Your brain can only process a certain amount of information and you will be unlikely to see a cyclist. So as proud as you are of avoiding getting creamed by a car, just remember, you aren't the only guy on a bike out there.
    You really can't see other cyclist when you are riding? Maybe your answer is to be more observant instead of to change your riding style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hnsq View Post
    You really can't see other cyclist when you are riding? Maybe your answer is to be more observant instead of to change your riding style.
    At an intersection, there is so much information that your brain cannot take it all in. Its a fact, don't make me whip out the gorilla video.

    It's why many people in cars don't see us, it's why people in cars sometimes don't see other cars, and it's also the reason that intersections are controlled. Don't fool yourself into believing you see everything that's going on, because you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    I'm curious what's gonna happen when you slam into a fellow cyclist coming from the green light direction. When you two collide, will you yell at him?

    This is a serious question, Joey. You say you look for cars, it's easy to miss another cyclist. Your brain can only process a certain amount of information and you will be unlikely to see a cyclist. So as proud as you are of avoiding getting creamed by a car, just remember, you aren't the only guy on a bike out there.
    You sure this is a serious question? A crossing rider would be hella easy to see and avoid.

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