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Old 07-08-09, 10:40 PM   #1
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Using your drivers license as ID when you're riding

How many of you carry your drivers license as your primary/only ID while riding? I do, and I've wondered at the ramifications in my own state (Texas) and other states if you hand your drivers license to a cop when you're stopped for a traffic violation on a bicycle.
1. Do you HAVE TO show an ID if you're on a bicycle or simply identify yourself?
2. If so does the ID have to be a state issued one?
3. If you don't show or don't have an ID on you, can the police detain you or "take you in"?
4. Can your driving record be annotated, i.e. points taken, for a bicycling traffic infraction?
Personal experiences, outcomes, court appearances, etc. are very helpful. Please no "I heard of a guy" stories.
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Old 07-08-09, 10:46 PM   #2
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There are many threads already on this exact same question. People have already told the stories you are asking for. Feel free to read them and not expect them to type it all over again for you.

I have no idea about Texas, but in California cycling offenses do not go on dmv record. They might end up there by mistake but you can easily remove them.
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In Texas, you must give your real name and current address when asked by a police officer. You are not required to carry nor present any form of ID. However, if the officer believes you are not telling the truth, he may detain you until your ID can be verified.

I do not know if your driving record can be hurt for a cycling ticket. It ought to be contested if it is a bicycle specific crime that you are charged with- Say failure wear a helmet in Dallas, or riding on the sidewalk. I would avoid presenting a driver's license as ID when I wasn't operating a motor vehicle.
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I suggest you troll the Fixed Gear forums. Those kiddies get all riled up over insignificant issues likes this.
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I do not carry my drivers license when riding. I usually have a debit card, and most of the time have my concealed weapons permit. Never been stopped while riding, but those two (the CWP is a state id with pic) ought to provide enough proof of who I am.
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As long as you're giving them your real name, the police already have access to your DL number and record. Right or wrong, if they are set on writing a citation to your DL, I don't see how not having the actual card with you would change a thing. Motorists receive citations even when they don't carry their card.
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I carry mine with me, but, as sad as this is, the primary reason is so that I can be easily identified if I get hit by a car and don't live to state my name, address, and phone number.
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I did get a ticket for running a red light and it did not go on my license/insurance because I was on my bike. Your results may vary in your area.
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As long as you're giving them your real name, the police already have access to your DL number and record. Right or wrong, if they are set on writing a citation to your DL, I don't see how not having the actual card with you would change a thing. Motorists receive citations even when they don't carry their card.
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In regards to points, you need to check your state law. In Virginia, you can get points on your license although from a few discussions with local advocates, it depends on the citation.

Below is an example of some cyclists getting and avoiding points.

http://theathleteslawyer.com/cases/l...c-court-today/
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As long as you're giving them your real name, the police already have access to your DL number and record. Right or wrong, if they are set on writing a citation to your DL, I don't see how not having the actual card with you would change a thing. Motorists receive citations even when they don't carry their card.
I believe in TX you are required to show your license with you CWP.
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As in most places another form of ID is sufficient for bike riding. LEO's will typically go for the DL because it's what they know. I don't carry mine to minimize the chance of cross-over penalties like points by way bureaucratic SNAFU. As cycling does not require a DL , a DL cannot generally be demanded as then is not a just application of the law for the simple fact not all cyclists have DL's, unlike motorists that require them.

Make certain they write BICYCLE in big letters on the ticket and tell him to press hard with his pen, then circle it and triple underline it. Ask for for a copy of the dashboard video just for kicks.
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Old 07-09-09, 12:12 PM   #13
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The OP's profile says that he is in Taiwan. He should probably check local laws.
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I believe in TX you are required to show your license with you CWP.
Bob Mionske answered this question about Texas law HERE.

There is no law in Texas requiring one to have ID of any kind on his person unless he is operating a motor vehicle.

It is against the law to give an officer false information about your real name and where you live.

You have no further obligation under the law than that. In Texas. You may live in a far more authoritative state. (Glad I'm not you!)
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Well, a few months ago, I went for a trail ride and took my driver's license and my insurance card, in my jersey pocket. Lost em! Hello, identity theft, I am expecting you!
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I recommend photo-copying them, and folding them up in a small ziplock bag.
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I keep my DL in my car, because I have a military ID if I need to identify myself. This way when I drive I know I have it.

If I'm not cutting through the military base, then I don't make it a point to take it with me. I ride with no ID (just a debit card and a cell phone) fairly often. The only way this has affected me thus far is when I want to buy beer on the way back home.
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Yes, I'm currently living in Taiwan where I would have to show my govt. issued ID card (sort of like a green card) but my permanent residence is Texas (near Houston). The info for TX here is helpful. Thanks.
BTW, in TX if you are stopped while driving a motor vehicle and are armed, you must show your CHP with your license. In other instances the 2 don't have to go together.
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My take is that having one's driver's license or id on them when away from home is beneficial, depending on the LEO and on the incident of why the LEO is asking for the id, may make the difference between having short traffic stop or a free ride and a longer stay at the local precinct.
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pull a Lebowski. carry a Ralph's grocery card.

"this is your only ID?"

'I know my rights.'

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I carry mine with me, but, as sad as this is, the primary reason is so that I can be easily identified if I get hit by a car and don't live to state my name, address, and phone number.
same here!
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I carry mine for the obvious reason: I get carded at bars.

I'm sure that's the real reason everyone else does but they're too embarrassed to say so . Who doesn't enjoy a beer or two at the end of a ride?

Apologies to any AA graduates.
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One solution is, pocket or cycle bag space permitting, to carry a passport instead of a driver's license.
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I carry mine for the obvious reason: I get carded at bars.

I'm sure that's the real reason everyone else does but they're too embarrassed to say so .
Ha! I wish that was the reason, I haven't been carded in so long, another generation of persons reaching the legal drinking age has long since came and went.
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I carry mine with me, but, as sad as this is, the primary reason is so that I can be easily identified if I get hit by a car and don't live to state my name, address, and phone number.
+1 I also have my insurance card and cell phone with me with my wife's number in the Address book as ICE and my father's as ICE2 for the same sad reasons. Never been stopped by an office on the bike or in a car; my wife says I drive like an 80 year old.
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