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07-15-09, 02:45 PM
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+2. Don't give crazy people keyboards but if you do at least make them live in A&S.
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07-15-09, 02:46 PM
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Not 97% of the population...97% of other politicians...many of whom may have been republicans that voted FOR it, to look "pro-fitness" even though they knew people in Suburbans were against it simply because they knew the Gov would veto it.
07-15-09, 02:53 PM
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Governor Goodhair is a lame duck anyway. He doesn't have to worry about p***ing off the voters anymore.
07-15-09, 03:01 PM
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Is there a "pro-fitness" lobby or movement in Texes? :confused:
07-15-09, 03:15 PM
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Hmmmm....I see stats, the words "govenor" and "state" and "law" and "democracy"...please send the crazies back to A&S.
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07-15-09, 03:35 PM
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But representatives are there to represent the will of the populace. Thus, what a representative votes for and against is exactly what his voters want. Meaning is 97% of congress vote one way, 97% of people want it that way.
07-15-09, 03:57 PM
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Not true. The republican majority re-zoned the state a few years ago to ensure that they would keep their majority regardless of the wishes of the people.
This is like saying that because Congress overwhelmingly supported attacking Iraq that the public overwhelmingly wanted to go to war with Iraq. Just plain not true.
This is like saying that because Congress overwhelmingly supported attacking Iraq that the public overwhelmingly wanted to go to war with Iraq. Just plain not true.
07-15-09, 03:59 PM
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That should get this one moved...not sure if to A+S though
07-15-09, 04:18 PM
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07-15-09, 04:32 PM
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OK just having returned from TX and having gotten in a few good rides I found the drivers where I rode to be very considerate. My home of Fla does have a 3 foot rule and I have more trouble here. However, as stated above I wouldn't walk a bike down a street in Houston.
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07-15-09, 05:25 PM
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BTW, the facepalm is for the overreaction more than laws that again, will not be enforced as they cannot be proved. Speed Limits can be enforced easily with RADAR and LIDAR but how will they know if a car gave you three feet?
07-15-09, 08:00 PM
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I guess none of you went to high school. The lower the elevation (the higher the atmospheric pressure) and the higher the boiling point. This is why boiling water isn't adequate to sterilize it when camping above a certain elevation. As the water boils at a lower temperature, it never gets hot enough to kill all the nasty bacteria before being converted to vapor.
07-15-09, 08:57 PM
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I don't like to drive in Houston much less ride. There are few places I've been in the US with crappier drivers - and that's up against some damned stiff competition...
All things considered, what did you expect from Perry or the Chronicle readers? Perry is a wholly owned subsidiary of big oil...
All things considered, what did you expect from Perry or the Chronicle readers? Perry is a wholly owned subsidiary of big oil...
07-16-09, 07:05 AM
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07-16-09, 07:45 AM
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I was not aware of this bill and I'm am SO GLAD he vetoed it. It would have been complete crap. I can't count the number of bicyclists who ride down the middle of their lane (quite PROPERLY I would add) as the "vehicles" they are, and then roll through the red lights because "they're not really vehicles after all." Like most liberals, they want more than their share of rights, and few if any responsibilities.
I get a kick out of people assuming that cyclists are liberals. I know some that are border line fascists.
I get a kick out of people assuming that cyclists are liberals. I know some that are border line fascists.
07-16-09, 07:47 AM
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This bill was a moot point. There is already plenty of legislation of the books protecting cyclists that people are unaware of and goes completely unenforced. Lobbyists waste so much time on "new", unnecessary legislation, but let's focus on enforcing the laws we already have and educating both cyclists and drivers instead of more legislation. Something tells me even if this did pass, drivers would be ignorant and most cyclists would continue to ride irresponsibly.
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What do you expect? I bike a lot and rarely drive, and it boils my blood when I see bikes blowing stop signs, or the stop lights that work perfectly for a bike in my town.
No wonder they hate us, sometimes I hate us. Until some of you idiots grow up and start paying attention to how you act on the road this is what you get.
No wonder they hate us, sometimes I hate us. Until some of you idiots grow up and start paying attention to how you act on the road this is what you get.
07-16-09, 10:16 AM
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SB 488 is a monstrous bill. It has been promoted by "bicycle advocates" as a big make the world safe for cyclists law without ever quoting the bill. It is clear that that doing so would have diminished support for it, not strengthened it.
Even a glance at it reveals that it is mostly re-stating existing statutes that are not being enforced. It is pure silliness to think new laws would see any better enforcement.
But it is particularly bad for cyclists. As of yet, cyclists have all the rights and duties of drivers of vehicles in Texas. (*)This bill would have lumped cyclists into the same category as toy operators for the first time. How could that have a good outcome?
Language allowing vehicles to ignore a safe passing distance if they are in a separate lane would allow a motor vehicle to overtake a cyclist within inches if he were in a bike lane. How cool is that?
Cyclists in Texas should be glad this bill was vetoed.
We need wiser "bicycle advocates".
We need current laws enforced.
* Section 551.101 RIGHTS AND DUTIES.
(a) A person operating a bicycle has the rights and duties applicable to a driver operating a vehicle under this subtitle, unless:
(1) a provision of this chapter alters a right or duty; or
(2) a right or duty applicable to a driver operating a vehicle cannot by its nature apply to a person operating a bicycle.
Even a glance at it reveals that it is mostly re-stating existing statutes that are not being enforced. It is pure silliness to think new laws would see any better enforcement.
But it is particularly bad for cyclists. As of yet, cyclists have all the rights and duties of drivers of vehicles in Texas. (*)This bill would have lumped cyclists into the same category as toy operators for the first time. How could that have a good outcome?
Language allowing vehicles to ignore a safe passing distance if they are in a separate lane would allow a motor vehicle to overtake a cyclist within inches if he were in a bike lane. How cool is that?
Cyclists in Texas should be glad this bill was vetoed.
We need wiser "bicycle advocates".
We need current laws enforced.
* Section 551.101 RIGHTS AND DUTIES.
(a) A person operating a bicycle has the rights and duties applicable to a driver operating a vehicle under this subtitle, unless:
(1) a provision of this chapter alters a right or duty; or
(2) a right or duty applicable to a driver operating a vehicle cannot by its nature apply to a person operating a bicycle.