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Old 08-04-09, 12:28 PM   #1
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female driver pulls gun on cyclist

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911...ves/175366.asp

The bicyclist told police the woman driver pointed a gun at him. She said she only moved it from her purse so she could get her cell phone and call police about the cyclist.

The incident happened about 9:30 a.m. last Tuesday near East Madison Street and 12th Avenue, according to a Seattle police report released Monday.

The woman, 50, told police the bicyclist was traveling in and out of traffic, hitting vehicle side mirrors. As she passed him, she yelled "Jerk."

The woman told police when she came to a stop by an intersection, the cyclist went to the side of her vehicle and yelled "Did you say anything to me?"

"She said she was going to call police, and she reached into her purse to grab her cell phone," an officer wrote in the report. "She said her purse was compact, and her cell phone was buried inside.

"She said in able to retrieve her phone she had to remove her concealed firearm from her purse."

The cyclist, apparently scared by the 9 mm pistol, refused to wait for officers at the scene and said he would talk to officer at another location. Police tried to contact him at the phone number he gave a dispatcher, but he did not return a message to call the East Precinct, according to the report.

The Seattle woman showed police her concealed-weapons permit.

"She said at no time did she point the weapon at (the) bicyclist nor did she make any threats toward him," according to the report. The woman was initially stopped by two officers and held in police custody.

Police returned her pistol after she showed her permit, and she was released from the scene.
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Old 08-04-09, 02:59 PM   #2
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Point being?
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Old 08-04-09, 03:16 PM   #3
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whoever has the gun is the one still around to talk to the newspapers and give their side of the story.

that's the point.
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Old 08-04-09, 03:17 PM   #4
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In Arizona it's legal to wear a pistol on the hip (not concealed).
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whoever has the gun is the one still around to talk to the newspapers and give their side of the story.

that's the point.

More like whoever attempts to file a false police report usually won't follow through after the fact. The woman talked to the police voluntarily, where is the supposed victim?
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In Arizona it's legal to wear a pistol on the hip (not concealed).
Thanks for the random fact. We all get it, AZ is a great state for gun rights.
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In Arizona it's legal to wear a pistol on the hip (not concealed).
In Vermont you don't need a permit to carry concealed or otherwise.
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More like whoever attempts to file a false police report usually won't follow through after the fact. The woman talked to the police voluntarily, where is the supposed victim?
According to the article the woman was briefly in police custody. There is no mention of what happened to the cyclist. Unless he damaged someone's car it's unlikely any charges will be filed.
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She should be more careful. In some states someone doing this might not only find their CCW revoked, but could also find themselves a ward of the state for brandishing.

She should get a concealed carry specific purse to solve this problem.

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Old 08-04-09, 05:32 PM   #10
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+1

First rule about a CCW is that NO ONE sees it unless you plan on using it. According to her story for here to make the phone call she had to go past the pistol making it visible. Usually a phone is pretty easy to reach she needs a better method of carrying.
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Actually, even this is not the best method of carry:
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She should get a concealed carry specific purse to solve this problem.
If she were serious about effective concealed carry she would have the weapon concealed on her person.
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MMMMMMM a thigh holster under her skirt sounds about right
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Letting someone see it is rather close indeed to brandishing. It is showing it off, as how else would anyone know it is there?
California has open carry, but it must be unloaded. Lotta good that would do.
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Funny how people's confrontational attitudes change when they realize that the person they are confronting has a capability to respond with deadly force. Everybody is a tough guy when they think they can get away with it.
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The woman, 50, told police the bicyclist was traveling in and out of traffic, hitting vehicle side mirrors. As she passed him, she yelled "Jerk."
This doesn't pass the smell test.
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More like whoever attempts to file a false police report usually won't follow through after the fact. The woman talked to the police voluntarily, where is the supposed victim?
Not exactly. The police pulled her over after receiving a report of her pointing the gun. The police likely had their guns drawn while doing so. From the sound of it, she never even called police, despite the claim of getting the gun out to get to her phone.
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Everybody is a tough guy when they think they can get away with it.
like when they're carrying a concealed weapon, for instance?
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So, the author didn't get the cyclist's side of the story, and anyway the cyclist hasn't even filed a report? What kind of news is this?
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Must be awkward when she's picking the kids up at school and her husband calls....
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In Vermont you don't need a permit to carry concealed or otherwise.
In Texas it's illegal NOT to carry a gun.
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Thanks for the random fact. We all get it, AZ is a great state for gun rights.
As long as we are on random facts, it's perfectly legal to open carry in WA state too. However, that doesn't include while driving a car. To pack a loaded pistol in a car you must have a carry permit. Doesn't make much sense, but there ya go. I would suspect it's also illegal to carry while riding a bike since it's considered a vehicle, however I'm not sure if the law states you can't carry in only an automobile.
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Must be awkward when she's picking the kids up at school and her husband calls....
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According to the article the woman was briefly in police custody. There is no mention of what happened to the cyclist. Unless he damaged someone's car it's unlikely any charges will be filed.
She was briefly detained and spoke willingly. The cyclist did not call the police back when they called him in order to take the report. Very suspicious, especially when he is the complaintant who initially called the police. If his life was legitimately threatened and it wasn't that the woman was just being callous with the gun, you would think he'd have definitely wanted to insure that didn't happen again.
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Actually, even this is not the best method of carry:


If she were serious about effective concealed carry she would have the weapon concealed on her person.
From NCIS episode "Friends & Lovers" dialog between Mosad Officer Ziva David and NCIS Special Agent Michelle Lee:

NCIS Special Agent Michelle Lee: I don't know where *your* SIG is, but I'm having trouble walking.
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