Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 64
  1. #1
    pnj
    pnj is offline
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    seattle
    Posts
    1,083
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    mad that others don't wear helmets?

    one of the arguments I see alot about not wearing helmets is that people say "our insurance rates go up because of you helmet less jerks!" (or something like that...)


    but I was just thinking about something along the same lines, that is, really really fat people. don't these people cause the insurance rates to go up along the same lines as helmet less folks? there are so many health related issues with being super fat. how come I never hear people complain about them?
    4130

  2. #2
    Senior Member Trek Rider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    On my bike
    Posts
    318
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I couldn't care less is someone decides not to wear a helmet. It's their choice to make. It's not up to me to decide if you wear a helmet.

  3. #3
    You're just a fat kid Moistfly's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Holladay, Utah
    My Bikes
    Felt 45 w/ speedplay x3 pedals
    Posts
    389
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It's worse than that .... your tax dollars are funding programs that pay their medical costs when they develop diseases like diabetes etc...

  4. #4
    pnj
    pnj is offline
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    seattle
    Posts
    1,083
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    tax dollars will always go to things people don't want them to.
    fat people should be taxed more.
    4130

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Tucson, Arizona
    Posts
    236
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Fat people piss me off. I hate subsidizing them through my health insurance costs every two weeks. Just think how much less health care would cost if everybody rode bikes!!!!! We should get discounts. I believe that health insurance costs should be based solely on an annual physical every year. If you are healthy, then you pay less.

    Along these lines, African Americans are more suseptable to many types of diseases then other races. Should they have to pay more in insurance because of it? In a strictly numbers sense, then yes, that would be fair, but imagine the uproar.

  6. #6
    You're just a fat kid Moistfly's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Holladay, Utah
    My Bikes
    Felt 45 w/ speedplay x3 pedals
    Posts
    389
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    No, they have just as much right to their money as anyone else. If anything some of the money funneled into those public health programs should be placed into preventetive method programs. For example, a program that subsidizes the cost of a gym membership for obese people but requires them to log time at the gym to receive the money etc...

  7. #7
    You're just a fat kid Moistfly's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Holladay, Utah
    My Bikes
    Felt 45 w/ speedplay x3 pedals
    Posts
    389
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by 520commuter
    Fat people piss me off. I hate subsidizing them through my health insurance costs every two weeks. Just think how much less health care would cost if everybody rode bikes!!!!! We should get discounts. I believe that health insurance costs should be based solely on an annual physical every year. If you are healthy, then you pay less.

    Along these lines, African Americans are more suseptable to many types of diseases then other races. Should they have to pay more in insurance because of it? In a strictly numbers sense, then yes, that would be fair, but imagine the uproar.

    That's a dangerous slope you're sliding down ....

  8. #8
    pnj
    pnj is offline
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    seattle
    Posts
    1,083
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Moistfly
    No, they have just as much right to their money as anyone else. If anything some of the money funneled into those public health programs should be placed into preventetive method programs. For example, a program that subsidizes the cost of a gym membership for obese people but requires them to log time at the gym to receive the money etc...

    right. but charge them if they don't go to the gym. and they won't go to the gym because the are fat and lazy, therefore basicly taxing them for being fat.
    4130

  9. #9
    You're just a fat kid Moistfly's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Holladay, Utah
    My Bikes
    Felt 45 w/ speedplay x3 pedals
    Posts
    389
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Maybe the reason so many overweight people don't go to they gym is because they know they'll be around people with that attitude.

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Tucson, Arizona
    Posts
    236
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yep, dangerous slope, but numbers and statistics don't care about your race, religion, or sex. However, race should not be factored into health insurance simply because it wouldn't be worth the perceived "racism".

    People with more expensive cars pay more auto insurance than those with cheap cars. Shouldn't people with more "costly" bodies pay more than physically fit people who will never fall apart due to being overweight? The costs of obesity are stagering, and are now meeting and exceeding the total health care costs of cigarettes. With all of the anti-smoking commercials, shouldn't there be some anti-fat ass commercials? Nah, that would piss people off to much.

  11. #11
    Member nualle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN, US
    My Bikes
    homebuilt tadpole trike
    Posts
    44
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by pnj
    how come I never hear people complain about them?
    Because you haven't been listening. I've been hearing it since grade school.

  12. #12
    pnj
    pnj is offline
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    seattle
    Posts
    1,083
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Moistfly
    Maybe the reason so many overweight people don't go to they gym is because they know they'll be around people with that attitude.
    haha, maybe. I don't go to gyms myself. I can't stand people that are all into being in shape.

    no, actually I just like being outside instead of inside simulating outdoor activitys.

    and for what it's worth, I'm married to a fat ass that smokes....
    4130

  13. #13
    2-Cyl, 1/2 HP @ 90 RPM slvoid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    NYC
    My Bikes
    04' Specialized Hardrock Sport, 03' Giant OCR2 (SOLD!), 04' Litespeed Firenze, 04' Giant OCR Touring, 07' Specialized Langster Comp
    Posts
    15,762
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by pnj
    and for what it's worth, I'm married to a fat ass that smokes....
    You are in SOOOOO much trouble when said "fat ass" reads this.

  14. #14
    more ape than man timmhaan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    nyc
    Posts
    8,093
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Moistfly
    No, they have just as much right to their money as anyone else. If anything some of the money funneled into those public health programs should be placed into preventetive method programs. For example, a program that subsidizes the cost of a gym membership for obese people but requires them to log time at the gym to receive the money etc...
    i think that food companies who sell products that are deemed harmful to one's health should have to contribute to the health care costs somewhat. sort of a "supply side" way of getting the money. the extra costs would be incorprated into the price of the food anyway, so essentially people that spend a lot of money on fast food will be paying more.

  15. #15
    pnj
    pnj is offline
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    seattle
    Posts
    1,083
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    You are in SOOOOO much trouble when said "fat ass" reads this.

    she won't be reading this, I'm sure.
    4130

  16. #16
    Devilmaycare Cycling Fool Allister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    Wynnum, Australia
    My Bikes
    1998 Cannondale F700
    Posts
    3,819
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by timmhaan
    i think that food companies who sell products that are deemed harmful to one's health should have to contribute to the health care costs somewhat. sort of a "supply side" way of getting the money. the extra costs would be incorprated into the price of the food anyway, so essentially people that spend a lot of money on fast food will be paying more.
    How about warning labels like they do on cigarettes? (not that it does any good)

    Warning: Eating this will make you bottom heavy.
    Warning: Fat people have less sex appeal.
    Warning: Blood can't flow through arteries congested with fat.
    Warning: If you get winded opening this package, you probably shouldn't eat the contents.
    If we learn from our mistakes, I must be a goddamn genius.

  17. #17
    Devilmaycare Cycling Fool Allister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    Wynnum, Australia
    My Bikes
    1998 Cannondale F700
    Posts
    3,819
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by pnj
    one of the arguments I see alot about not wearing helmets is that people say "our insurance rates go up because of you helmet less jerks!" (or something like that...)
    I'm never particularly impressed by selfishness dressed up as altruism.
    If we learn from our mistakes, I must be a goddamn genius.

  18. #18
    You need a new bike supcom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    5,434
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by pnj
    one of the arguments I see alot about not wearing helmets is that people say "our insurance rates go up because of you helmet less jerks!" (or something like that...)


    but I was just thinking about something along the same lines, that is, really really fat people. don't these people cause the insurance rates to go up along the same lines as helmet less folks? there are so many health related issues with being super fat. how come I never hear people complain about them?
    Yes, obese people cause insurance rates to go up. So do smokers, fast drivers, and older people. Most employers that offer health insurance to employees group everybody together and all pay the same rate regardless of age or weight. This makes insurance affordable for the entire group even though the 55 to 60 year olds may need heart bypass oeprations at a much higher rate than the 20 year olds. I am unaware of any current trend toward increasing premium costs for obese employees, but given the alarming rate of obesity in the US, I would not be surpriseed to see some experimentation with the idea.

    I can only imagine the annual company weigh-in. I wonder if it would be done right after the Christmas/New Years binge-fest?

  19. #19
    Every lane is a bike lane Chris L's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia - passionfruit capital of the universe!
    Posts
    9,622
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Allister
    How about warning labels like they do on cigarettes? (not that it does any good)

    Warning: Eating this will make you bottom heavy.
    Warning: Fat people have less sex appeal.
    Warning: Blood can't flow through arteries congested with fat.
    Warning: If you get winded opening this package, you probably shouldn't eat the contents.
    This is the best idea I've heard yet. Unfortunately, I don't think it's going to happen in the near future. Unlike smoking, I don't think there's going to be a passive "becoming a lardbutt" cry (which I think is the main objection most people have with smoking). Thus I doubt we'll ever see a powerful anti-greasy-food lobby at any time to pressure governments into making this requirement.
    "I am never going to flirt with idleness again" - Roy Keane
    "We invite everyone to question the entire culture we take for granted." - Manic Street Preachers.
    My blog.
    My bike tours. Japan tour page under construction.

  20. #20
    kipuka explorer bkrownd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Hilo Town, East Hawai'i
    My Bikes
    1994 Trek 820, 2004 Fuji Absolute, 2005 Jamis Nova, 1977 Schwinn Scrambler 36/36
    Posts
    3,275
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Cuties riding without helmets really burn me up.

    bkr
    --
    -=- '05 Jamis Nova -=- '04 Fuji Absolute -=- '94 Trek 820 -=- '77 Schwinn Scrambler 36/36 -=-
    Friends don't let friends use brifters.

  21. #21
    pnj
    pnj is offline
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    seattle
    Posts
    1,083
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Allister
    I'm never particularly impressed by selfishness dressed up as altruism.
    no but it is something people seem fond of doing.

    but the argument could go both ways I think.

    the overweight person is selfish because they eat too much or the skinny person is selfish because they want eveyone to be like them.

    (yea, I know that probably makes no sense, I just woke up....)
    4130

  22. #22
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Nashville, TN
    My Bikes
    2002 Giant OCR 3, 2003 Giant OCR Elite, 2004 Giant TCR, 2004 Giant OCR Touring, 2003 Giant Iguana, 2004 Cannondale Ironman 800, 2005 Giant Trance 3
    Posts
    760
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Moistfly
    Maybe the reason so many overweight people don't go to they gym is because they know they'll be around people with that attitude.
    But that kind of an attitude will help push them out of the rutt of staying fat because they will feel more guilty! Hey, when I got a whole new set of friends, most of them were in really good physical shape. They made me feel guilty being fat. So I did something about it.

    Before I moved to Nashville, friends from my hometown were all obese too. I would always get comments from them saying that I looked good and I wasn't really fat, so I just stayed big! I never had anyone to push me to lose weight and get into shape.

    So maybe that's what big people need, some push and humiliation! It helped me! It may hurt at the moment, but in the long-run, it will save their lives!

  23. #23
    You're just a fat kid Moistfly's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Holladay, Utah
    My Bikes
    Felt 45 w/ speedplay x3 pedals
    Posts
    389
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'm not into guilt as a motivator. But if it works for some all the better I suppose.

  24. #24
    Ride. drroebuck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    362
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Friend: Hey Bike Forum guy, what'd you do today?
    Bike Forum Guy: I sat around on the bike forums and talked about how we're all so much better than fat people.
    Friend: Gee, you're cool.

    What a bunch of a-holes. You take attitudes like this on the road and then you wonder why drivers (and everyone else, for that matter) hate you.

  25. #25
    pnj
    pnj is offline
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    seattle
    Posts
    1,083
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by drroebuck
    Friend: Hey Bike Forum guy, what'd you do today?
    Bike Forum Guy: I sat around on the bike forums and talked about how we're all so much better than fat people.
    Friend: Gee, you're cool.

    What a bunch of a-holes. You take attitudes like this on the road and then you wonder why drivers (and everyone else, for that matter) hate you.
    uh, yea. most people use the internet to put on a fake persona. I really doubt that anyone here really tells fat people they suck.

    as for people hating me, I don't wonder why they do. I even hate myself. and I have a 12 inch penis.

    way to fail at the internet......
    4130

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •