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    Cyclist Killed by Cell Phone Driver.

    I saw it on TV news today. Stay Alive, Don't Text and Drive. The life you save might be mine!!!! The roads are dangerious enough as it is already we don't need to make it worse. Stay on red alert all the time while riding your bike.

    Personally I think laws need to changed. If you kill someone while texting or talking on the cell phone you should go to prison for 10 years minumum. You should loose your drivers license for ever. What is the replacement cost of a house wife, mother, father, etc.??? You should pay $$$ for the replacement cost of the person you killed.

    About a year ago a young girl in her 20s passed me in her car while texting. She had 2 small children in the back seat both children in seat belts. Light turned red, I stopped and she didn't. She nailed a truck in the side. Now the 2 children have no mother.

    About 3 years ago I saw a cyclist killed on a bike the cell phone driver ran off the road into the bike lane and ran him over. Killed him dead.

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    I had a guy on a cell phone dart out in front of me just as I was halfway through my tun on a greenarrow. I almost killed him. He was at redlight and not paying attention cause he was talking on the phone. BTW, he was on a bike! an avid cyclist!

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    This will get more conversation in A&S.
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    Everytime I see a gabber in traffic, I give them the "phone gesture" (a fist, with the pinkie and thumb spread apart up to the ear) and then yell PAY ATTENTION!

    It's illegal to be on a cell while driving in BC, as if the clueless cagers care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash2Much View Post
    About a year ago a young girl in her 20s passed me in her car while texting. She had 2 small children in the back seat both children in seat belts. Light turned red, I stopped and she didn't. She nailed a truck in the side. Now the 2 children have no mother.

    About 3 years ago I saw a cyclist killed on a bike the cell phone driver ran off the road into the bike lane and ran him over. Killed him dead.
    You're bad luck.

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    Makes me want to stop riding on the streets and go back to riding in the woods....oh, wait, I can still get killed by a drunk "4x4ing redneck" there too. Its not safe to ride anywhere these days, sheeesh!

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    I get on my bike and assume that I am going to war, and that people will try to kill me on purpose.

    Keeps me paying attention up ahead and through my mirror behind me. That, and a little luck, have served me so far but it gets harder every day. Eventually, a phone using driver will kill the son or daughter of someone important - then appropriate action might be taken.
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    Almost justifies the paintball *** mounted to the handlebar....

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    Where did this happen?
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    It is a crying shame that we have to remind people not to endanger other peoples' lives.

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    I was out with a friend this past Sunday and he offered to drive. While driving down the highway we talked and all the while he fiddled with his GPS then looked up a phone number on his phone then had a sip of coffee. During this time the vehicle crossed over our lane markings numerous times and the speed of the vehicle went up and down with his attention. When I commented on this he was disgusted with me and called me an old man with no sense of adventure. If this is the attitude of the general public then I am sorry to say we are all doomed. Watch your back.
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    Hope you punched your friend in the head. I guess with people like this it is a case of when not if they kill / seriously injure someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daven1986 View Post
    Hope you punched your friend in the head. I guess with people like this it is a case of when not if they kill / seriously injure someone.


    Tell him/her that you would like to make it to old age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckbill View Post
    I was out with a friend this past Sunday and he offered to drive. While driving down the highway we talked and all the while he fiddled with his GPS then looked up a phone number on his phone then had a sip of coffee. During this time the vehicle crossed over our lane markings numerous times and the speed of the vehicle went up and down with his attention. When I commented on this he was disgusted with me and called me an old man with no sense of adventure. If this is the attitude of the general public then I am sorry to say we are all doomed. Watch your back.
    I don't even know what I'd say to someone like that. The first thing that came to mind was "I'd ask you to let me out so I could walk the rest of the way, but given the odds that there are other people out on the road that are probably as irresponsible as you are, it's probably marginally safer inside this cage." I sure as HELL wouldn't ride with him anymore.

    People don't think of driving seriously anymore. It's far and away the most serious thing most people will ever do. If there were any other activity that killed 45000 people a year in the US, we'd require people to go through hundreds of hours of training to get a license and probably a serious retest every year.
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    Exactly ItsJustMe, I have been saying this for so long. (Oh new font - cool!) People need to respect cars again and realise that they can kill people with them. I think part of the problem lies with all these safety devices cars have - not that I am saying we shouldn't have them - but with them the risk of injury to a driver is lowered and they feel a little more invincible.

    Also it is way too easy to pass a driving test, I managed it and I didn't feel in control of the vehicle at all - hence why I don't drive

    It has become far too common place, and in some cases almost a necessity, to drive. Driving should require much more training to do, and by increasing the training you then also can increase the punishments for poor driving. One day it will be safer, but I suspect it will get worse before it gets better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post
    If there were any other activity that killed 45000 people a year in the US, we'd require people to go through hundreds of hours of training to get a license and probably a serious retest every year.
    If not declare a war on it... a'la the war on poverty, or the war on drugs.

    Yet we seem to accept 45,000 dead annually as the price for the convenience of driving. It is absolutely amazing isn't it. Not to mention that we also go to actual war to defend the resources to continue to drive.

    If anything, there should be a PR blurb that equates driving to supplying terrorists with operating funds... but no, that would be just a bit too hypocritical now wouldn't it.

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    I noticed a quantum shift in driver capabilities when I came back from overseas, 21 years ago. I'd gotten used to German drivers, serious business, A to B focus, no BS. Came back to 'the world', and found more need for my newly enhanced driving skills than when & where I'd learned them!

    It's scary how easy it is to get a license today... and even scarier that people have a problem DOING it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DX-MAN View Post
    Almost justifies the paintball *** mounted to the handlebar....
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    Quote Originally Posted by daven1986 View Post
    Hope you punched your friend in the head. I guess with people like this it is a case of when not if they kill / seriously injure someone.
    Yesterday Ophra did a show on distracted driving. She had three people on who thought that they could multitask while behind the wheel, i.e. drive and text. They all got a wake up call. I don't know if it's actually going to change their driving habits in the long term or not. But it was a wake up call, hopefully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post
    I don't even know what I'd say to someone like that. The first thing that came to mind was "I'd ask you to let me out so I could walk the rest of the way, but given the odds that there are other people out on the road that are probably as irresponsible as you are, it's probably marginally safer inside this cage." I sure as HELL wouldn't ride with him anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post
    People don't think of driving seriously anymore. It's far and away the most serious thing most people will ever do. If there were any other activity that killed 45000 people a year in the US, we'd require people to go through hundreds of hours of training to get a license and probably a serious retest every year.
    No, they do not. And yes they should be required to do so. As we have said it is too easy in this country to get a license and too hard to revoke it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy View Post
    Yesterday Ophra did a show on distracted driving. She had three people on who thought that they could multitask while behind the wheel, i.e. drive and text. They all got a wake up call. I don't know if it's actually going to change their driving habits in the long term or not. But it was a wake up call, hopefully.
    What did they have some sort of simulator where these people were tested while driving and multitasking? Or did they just bring out some "stats" and some "authority" to say "no, you can't?"

    People have the hardest time accepting that they cannot "do it all..." unless you show them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genec View Post
    If not declare a war on it... a'la the war on poverty, or the war on drugs.

    Yet we seem to accept 45,000 dead annually as the price for the convenience of driving. It is absolutely amazing isn't it. Not to mention that we also go to actual war to defend the resources to continue to drive.

    If anything, there should be a PR blurb that equates driving to supplying terrorists with operating funds... but no, that would be just a bit too hypocritical now wouldn't it.
    ...because we've done so well with the Wars on Poverty and Drugs?

    We'd be better off treating the symptom -- punish people who maim and kill with their cars -- than the supposed causes like cell-phone driving or drunk driving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
    ...because we've done so well with the Wars on Poverty and Drugs?

    We'd be better off treating the symptom -- punish people who maim and kill with their cars -- than the supposed causes like cell-phone driving or drunk driving.
    Agreed.

    And no, not because we've done so well with the wars on poverty and drugs, but because this is a national issue of equal proportion that we are actively overlooking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post
    People don't think of driving seriously anymore. It's far and away the most serious thing most people will ever do. If there were any other activity that killed 45000 people a year in the US, we'd require people to go through hundreds of hours of training to get a license and probably a serious retest every year.
    Quote Originally Posted by daven1986 View Post
    Exactly ItsJustMe, I have been saying this for so long. (Oh new font - cool!) People need to respect cars again and realise that they can kill people with them. I think part of the problem lies with all these safety devices cars have - not that I am saying we shouldn't have them - but with them the risk of injury to a driver is lowered and they feel a little more invincible.
    On one of the other forums i'm on, one guy nailed it. His comment said something like that back in 80's people knew cars were dangerous and safety was up to the driver. Now with all the safety features, most people think safety is up to the vechicle, and not the driver. The dangerous thing with this thinking is people pay less attention to their driving now more than ever and think that driving isn't as important while they are behind the wheel.

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    I know a guy that has 56 DUIs for drunk driving. He has lost his drivers license for life but he still drives. It should be illegal to sell him a vehicle. A person should be required to get a permit to buy a vehicle. The car salesman should go to jail for selling a drunk a vehicle. Friends and relatives should go to jail for letting a drunk borrow their car. Laws need to be changed. I have 3 good friends that have all been hit by cars and they all 3 spent time in the hospital and still ride bikes. Crazy thing nothing was every done to the car drivers it is not illegal to run over someone on a bike. I guess if you wanted to murder someone get them on a bike then run them over with your car. When I was young I use to carry some golf ball size rocks when I road my bike I could stop and throw a rock and hit a car that cut me off or almost ran over me on the bike. I can't do that anymore and I'm not sure how it was possible for me to do that when I was younger I guess I just much quicker back then and had a stronger arm. I have 2 cousins that are both jerks they like to bragg about the time they opened a car door and knocked a biker off his bike or the time they threw an unopened beer out the car window and hit a biker in the back and he wrecked or the time they stuck something out the window and hit a biker and knocked him down or the time they stuck a boom handle out the car window into a bikers front wheel and the bike flipped. There are a lot of jerks like my cousins that need to have every bone in their body broken with a baseball bat.
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