How to prove my bike is my bike?
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How to prove my bike is my bike?
Tonight sucked.
At about 6:30, I went over to a friend's house in a somewhat "bad" part of town. Just as I got out of his house around 8:45, a police car pulls up to an adjacent stop sign I'm locked to (literally nothing else to lock). He sits there for a few seconds, then yells out to ask if it's one of our bikes. I told him it was mine. Story is, somebody had already called it in as abandoned and he was sent there to impound it, but saw the lock and figured someone would come back for it. Keep in mind that this was just over 2 hours after parking it there. He wished us a good night and drove off. My friend and I continued to talk for a few minutes, then I leave.
As I walked across the street to get my bike, another police officer pulls up. Here comes bad cop. We went through the same story. "Is that your bike?"
"Yeah" (Here's where the interaction was different)
"Well, that doesn't line up. This here bike was called in abandoned. I'm taking it to the station."
"I locked it here about 2 1/2 hours ago" I said as I twisted the key to undo my Kryptonite U-lock.
"You have any proof that it's your bike?" I thought that showing him that the lock and key matching would be enough, and walk to his window to show him. He doesn't buy it, saying I could have "planted" the lock on an unlocked bike hours ago. The bike lights in my backpack didn't prove anything either. I couldn't believe it. His next suggestion was to present a receipt. I thought he was playing dumb, considering the bike is 24 years old. I ended up calling the LBS mechanic and had him verify with the officer that I (Keith M) rides a grey Peugeot with orange and yellow stripes. After being told, the officer left me with a valuable piece of advice:
"Don't leave your bike sitting around anymore!" (even after I told him it was there for less than 3 hours)
No apologies or anything. I already submitted a report on him, but I bet nothing will happen. I'm still a little bit in shock that this happened. If my future self came back in time to tell me this sort of ludicrous story would ever happen, I'd laugh in his face. I guess I should stop assuming people have an ounce of intelligence .
Also, talk about irony; He was hoping to get me for stealing a bike, but he was there to take the bike and throw it in a room inside the police station.
At about 6:30, I went over to a friend's house in a somewhat "bad" part of town. Just as I got out of his house around 8:45, a police car pulls up to an adjacent stop sign I'm locked to (literally nothing else to lock). He sits there for a few seconds, then yells out to ask if it's one of our bikes. I told him it was mine. Story is, somebody had already called it in as abandoned and he was sent there to impound it, but saw the lock and figured someone would come back for it. Keep in mind that this was just over 2 hours after parking it there. He wished us a good night and drove off. My friend and I continued to talk for a few minutes, then I leave.
As I walked across the street to get my bike, another police officer pulls up. Here comes bad cop. We went through the same story. "Is that your bike?"
"Yeah" (Here's where the interaction was different)
"Well, that doesn't line up. This here bike was called in abandoned. I'm taking it to the station."
"I locked it here about 2 1/2 hours ago" I said as I twisted the key to undo my Kryptonite U-lock.
"You have any proof that it's your bike?" I thought that showing him that the lock and key matching would be enough, and walk to his window to show him. He doesn't buy it, saying I could have "planted" the lock on an unlocked bike hours ago. The bike lights in my backpack didn't prove anything either. I couldn't believe it. His next suggestion was to present a receipt. I thought he was playing dumb, considering the bike is 24 years old. I ended up calling the LBS mechanic and had him verify with the officer that I (Keith M) rides a grey Peugeot with orange and yellow stripes. After being told, the officer left me with a valuable piece of advice:
"Don't leave your bike sitting around anymore!" (even after I told him it was there for less than 3 hours)
No apologies or anything. I already submitted a report on him, but I bet nothing will happen. I'm still a little bit in shock that this happened. If my future self came back in time to tell me this sort of ludicrous story would ever happen, I'd laugh in his face. I guess I should stop assuming people have an ounce of intelligence .
Also, talk about irony; He was hoping to get me for stealing a bike, but he was there to take the bike and throw it in a room inside the police station.
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You know what they say, the truth is stranger then fiction. I don't think that anyone with half an ounce of common sense could see something like this ever happening. I have to wonder why the first cop didn't radio it in that the bike had been investigated and the owner was found.
I would suggest writing your name on a 3x5 card (two actually) and putting one in the seat tube and another in the handlebars, as well as recording the serial number in your phone. So that if you find yourself in that situation again you can show the LEO the 3x5 card(s) as well as the fact that you have the s/n recorded.
My bike isn't nearly as old, but I would be hard pressed to produce a receipt if I had to. Do your local LEO's register bikes, nominally against theft/ease of recovery in the case of theft? If so you might consider registering your bike with the your LEO's so that again if you find yourself in this situation you can easily prove that it is yours.
I would suggest writing your name on a 3x5 card (two actually) and putting one in the seat tube and another in the handlebars, as well as recording the serial number in your phone. So that if you find yourself in that situation again you can show the LEO the 3x5 card(s) as well as the fact that you have the s/n recorded.
My bike isn't nearly as old, but I would be hard pressed to produce a receipt if I had to. Do your local LEO's register bikes, nominally against theft/ease of recovery in the case of theft? If so you might consider registering your bike with the your LEO's so that again if you find yourself in this situation you can easily prove that it is yours.
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The only thing I could think of would be to have your serial number, and maybe a short description of the bike typed up and printed out (maybe on some do it yourself business card stock like they sell at the business supply stores) in your wallet. Having it typed like that would preclude the possibility that you just wrote it down a few minutes before some one asked.
You shouldn't have to do this, but if this is the kind of crap you have to deal with, best to be prepared.
You shouldn't have to do this, but if this is the kind of crap you have to deal with, best to be prepared.
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I find it hard to believe that the LEO was really that dumb.
He just wanted first dibs on it at the police auction, assuming it did not end up in his garage even before the police auction.
He just wanted first dibs on it at the police auction, assuming it did not end up in his garage even before the police auction.
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Post photos of your bike here on this wonderful forum and then use it as proof that you indeed are the proud owner of said bike!
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Also find the dip that called in your bike as abandoned, and start calling in his car as abandoned each night.
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Tonight sucked.
At about 6:30, I went over to a friend's house in a somewhat "bad" part of town. Just as I got out of his house around 8:45, a police car pulls up to an adjacent stop sign I'm locked to (literally nothing else to lock). He sits there for a few seconds, then yells out to ask if it's one of our bikes. I told him it was mine. Story is, somebody had already called it in as abandoned and he was sent there to impound it, but saw the lock and figured someone would come back for it. Keep in mind that this was just over 2 hours after parking it there. He wished us a good night and drove off. My friend and I continued to talk for a few minutes, then I leave.
As I walked across the street to get my bike, another police officer pulls up. Here comes bad cop. We went through the same story. "Is that your bike?"
"Yeah" (Here's where the interaction was different)
"Well, that doesn't line up. This here bike was called in abandoned. I'm taking it to the station."
"I locked it here about 2 1/2 hours ago" I said as I twisted the key to undo my Kryptonite U-lock.
"You have any proof that it's your bike?" I thought that showing him that the lock and key matching would be enough, and walk to his window to show him. He doesn't buy it, saying I could have "planted" the lock on an unlocked bike hours ago. The bike lights in my backpack didn't prove anything either. I couldn't believe it. His next suggestion was to present a receipt. I thought he was playing dumb, considering the bike is 24 years old. I ended up calling the LBS mechanic and had him verify with the officer that I (Keith M) rides a grey Peugeot with orange and yellow stripes. After being told, the officer left me with a valuable piece of advice:
"Don't leave your bike sitting around anymore!" (even after I told him it was there for less than 3 hours)
No apologies or anything. I already submitted a report on him, but I bet nothing will happen. I'm still a little bit in shock that this happened. If my future self came back in time to tell me this sort of ludicrous story would ever happen, I'd laugh in his face. I guess I should stop assuming people have an ounce of intelligence .
Also, talk about irony; He was hoping to get me for stealing a bike, but he was there to take the bike and throw it in a room inside the police station.
At about 6:30, I went over to a friend's house in a somewhat "bad" part of town. Just as I got out of his house around 8:45, a police car pulls up to an adjacent stop sign I'm locked to (literally nothing else to lock). He sits there for a few seconds, then yells out to ask if it's one of our bikes. I told him it was mine. Story is, somebody had already called it in as abandoned and he was sent there to impound it, but saw the lock and figured someone would come back for it. Keep in mind that this was just over 2 hours after parking it there. He wished us a good night and drove off. My friend and I continued to talk for a few minutes, then I leave.
As I walked across the street to get my bike, another police officer pulls up. Here comes bad cop. We went through the same story. "Is that your bike?"
"Yeah" (Here's where the interaction was different)
"Well, that doesn't line up. This here bike was called in abandoned. I'm taking it to the station."
"I locked it here about 2 1/2 hours ago" I said as I twisted the key to undo my Kryptonite U-lock.
"You have any proof that it's your bike?" I thought that showing him that the lock and key matching would be enough, and walk to his window to show him. He doesn't buy it, saying I could have "planted" the lock on an unlocked bike hours ago. The bike lights in my backpack didn't prove anything either. I couldn't believe it. His next suggestion was to present a receipt. I thought he was playing dumb, considering the bike is 24 years old. I ended up calling the LBS mechanic and had him verify with the officer that I (Keith M) rides a grey Peugeot with orange and yellow stripes. After being told, the officer left me with a valuable piece of advice:
"Don't leave your bike sitting around anymore!" (even after I told him it was there for less than 3 hours)
No apologies or anything. I already submitted a report on him, but I bet nothing will happen. I'm still a little bit in shock that this happened. If my future self came back in time to tell me this sort of ludicrous story would ever happen, I'd laugh in his face. I guess I should stop assuming people have an ounce of intelligence .
Also, talk about irony; He was hoping to get me for stealing a bike, but he was there to take the bike and throw it in a room inside the police station.
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God, since if few areas bikes are registered, the police officer mentioned in the piece is being an arse.. Must we all ride with a sales receipt in our jersey pocket. ?
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Impossible unless or until some head-up-their-butt jusidiction starts requiring paperwork for bicycles similar to auto registration.
I commute on a 1985 Raleigh Wyoming I bought new in 1985. On occassion I tool around on a 1978 Schwinn Traveller that my brother bought new in 1978. Repeipt? Yeah, right!
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Tonight sucked.
At about 6:30, I went over to a friend's house in a somewhat "bad" part of town. Just as I got out of his house around 8:45, a police car pulls up to an adjacent stop sign I'm locked to (literally nothing else to lock). He sits there for a few seconds, then yells out to ask if it's one of our bikes. I told him it was mine. Story is, somebody had already called it in as abandoned and he was sent there to impound it, but saw the lock and figured someone would come back for it. Keep in mind that this was just over 2 hours after parking it there. He wished us a good night and drove off. My friend and I continued to talk for a few minutes, then I leave.
As I walked across the street to get my bike, another police officer pulls up. Here comes bad cop. We went through the same story. "Is that your bike?"
"Yeah" (Here's where the interaction was different)
"Well, that doesn't line up. This here bike was called in abandoned. I'm taking it to the station."
"I locked it here about 2 1/2 hours ago" I said as I twisted the key to undo my Kryptonite U-lock.
"You have any proof that it's your bike?" I thought that showing him that the lock and key matching would be enough, and walk to his window to show him. He doesn't buy it, saying I could have "planted" the lock on an unlocked bike hours ago. The bike lights in my backpack didn't prove anything either. I couldn't believe it. His next suggestion was to present a receipt. I thought he was playing dumb, considering the bike is 24 years old. I ended up calling the LBS mechanic and had him verify with the officer that I (Keith M) rides a grey Peugeot with orange and yellow stripes. After being told, the officer left me with a valuable piece of advice:
"Don't leave your bike sitting around anymore!" (even after I told him it was there for less than 3 hours)
No apologies or anything. I already submitted a report on him, but I bet nothing will happen. I'm still a little bit in shock that this happened. If my future self came back in time to tell me this sort of ludicrous story would ever happen, I'd laugh in his face. I guess I should stop assuming people have an ounce of intelligence .
Also, talk about irony; He was hoping to get me for stealing a bike, but he was there to take the bike and throw it in a room inside the police station.
At about 6:30, I went over to a friend's house in a somewhat "bad" part of town. Just as I got out of his house around 8:45, a police car pulls up to an adjacent stop sign I'm locked to (literally nothing else to lock). He sits there for a few seconds, then yells out to ask if it's one of our bikes. I told him it was mine. Story is, somebody had already called it in as abandoned and he was sent there to impound it, but saw the lock and figured someone would come back for it. Keep in mind that this was just over 2 hours after parking it there. He wished us a good night and drove off. My friend and I continued to talk for a few minutes, then I leave.
As I walked across the street to get my bike, another police officer pulls up. Here comes bad cop. We went through the same story. "Is that your bike?"
"Yeah" (Here's where the interaction was different)
"Well, that doesn't line up. This here bike was called in abandoned. I'm taking it to the station."
"I locked it here about 2 1/2 hours ago" I said as I twisted the key to undo my Kryptonite U-lock.
"You have any proof that it's your bike?" I thought that showing him that the lock and key matching would be enough, and walk to his window to show him. He doesn't buy it, saying I could have "planted" the lock on an unlocked bike hours ago. The bike lights in my backpack didn't prove anything either. I couldn't believe it. His next suggestion was to present a receipt. I thought he was playing dumb, considering the bike is 24 years old. I ended up calling the LBS mechanic and had him verify with the officer that I (Keith M) rides a grey Peugeot with orange and yellow stripes. After being told, the officer left me with a valuable piece of advice:
"Don't leave your bike sitting around anymore!" (even after I told him it was there for less than 3 hours)
No apologies or anything. I already submitted a report on him, but I bet nothing will happen. I'm still a little bit in shock that this happened. If my future self came back in time to tell me this sort of ludicrous story would ever happen, I'd laugh in his face. I guess I should stop assuming people have an ounce of intelligence .
Also, talk about irony; He was hoping to get me for stealing a bike, but he was there to take the bike and throw it in a room inside the police station.
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One possibility is to take digital photos of your bike ccomplete and of the serial number, print them out (regular paper not photo paper) and tuck a copy into the ends of the handlebars or seatpost.
Who else is going to know that the photos are there?
Who else is going to know that the photos are there?
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As others have mentioned, a 3x5 card with your name, address, and phone number stuck inside the handlebars or seat post is a good way to discretely mark your bike.
What I personally do is take a photograph of the bike and post that to my profile on BikeJournal.com, and list the serial number of the bike in the description.
What I personally do is take a photograph of the bike and post that to my profile on BikeJournal.com, and list the serial number of the bike in the description.
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I keep the serial numbers of my family's bikes in a file on my phone, as well as pictures of the bikes.
My city also has a voluntary, free bicycle registration program (for theft recovery), with which I have registered all of our bikes.
My city also has a voluntary, free bicycle registration program (for theft recovery), with which I have registered all of our bikes.
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These are all great suggestions...but if he wasn't taking the lock/key as proof, and responded it could be planted, wouldn't he just say the same thing with the cards in the handle bars and seat tube? I know where I am the police registration of bikes is pretty much useless, it's not on a database and the information isn't shared with other city departments. The registration is in a manilla folder in one district.
On the one hand, I wish police were more agressive in targeting possibly stolen bikes, but what happened above is just plain silly. I also agree that he wanted the bike in his garage. In Philly we have people riding higher end bikes that are clearly the wrong size, obviously having no experience with them (the best is when they try riding clipless pedals with standard shoes) and who definitely don't look like the bike belongs to them. I want those people questioned.
On the one hand, I wish police were more agressive in targeting possibly stolen bikes, but what happened above is just plain silly. I also agree that he wanted the bike in his garage. In Philly we have people riding higher end bikes that are clearly the wrong size, obviously having no experience with them (the best is when they try riding clipless pedals with standard shoes) and who definitely don't look like the bike belongs to them. I want those people questioned.
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Do you have the sales receipt for an old bike... 2 of my bikes are over 25 years old... no way I have a receipt. I'm not even sure I could find the receipt for my 2 year old bike.
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Laminate two 3x5 cards, put them in both ends of your handlebar. Put your name, description of bike, date of purchase, serial number, seller's contact info (if available) + names of people who will back your claim up.
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The cop shouldn't leave his car sitting around anymore either.
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Ask the officer if he was wearing his own shoes.
I cannot believe the cops even bothered to roll down the street over a call about a bike. They were just harassing you. Do you look like a freak?
Stuff a laminated card with your name and address in the seat post.
I cannot believe the cops even bothered to roll down the street over a call about a bike. They were just harassing you. Do you look like a freak?
Stuff a laminated card with your name and address in the seat post.
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I would ask the cops in your local area what their suggestion is. Short of welding or brazing something on the bike, all the suggestions are easier to fake than the lock and key and bike lights. If they say registration, ask them if the cop would be able to call it in or would it only be useful if the cops impounded the bike. I don't understand that a locked bike would be considered abandoned and someone would call it in so quickly, who would bother? Two cop cars coming by in such a short time, must have nothing better to do. It was likely a strange coincidence.
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This was a concern of mine when I was on my world tour...so I had the serial number of my bike written in my passport with a stamp OVER it.
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