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    Saved someone's life today ;-)

    Driving downtown on a relatively busy road after dark and traffic slows quickly. Suddenly I see a cyclist wearing all black and a non-reflective helmet. I think to myself ... idiot!

    As I pass him I notice that he has a headlight. Hmmm... helmet, headlight? I slowed down and sure enough there is a blinkie taillight attached to his seatpost. Trouble is it is not turned on.

    I didn't want to scare the guy (since I was in my car) so I rolled my windows down and when he got into the lane beside me at the stoplight I yelled: (in my friendliest voice)

    "hey buddy -- your tail light is off!"

    Later I watched him blink down the road for several blocks.
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    Three Wal-Mart LED bulbs will save the ninja cyclist from death?

    Yawn...

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    Good Work...
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    I thought you were going to say you were riding your bike home, saw a burning building and stopped to catch a baby that someone tossed out the window. Now that would be way cool.
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    Good on ya. The same thing happened to me way back when, from the other side of the anecdote. Riding up a road with no shoulder after dark, and damn near got clipped by a passing car. When I caught up at the light, the dude already had his window down and immediately apologized for passing so close. Then he explained that he could barely see my taillight. I pulled up onto the sidewalk and looked, and sure enough he was right. Rode the rest of the way home slowly on the sidewalk, and now I carry spare batteries when I ride.

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    Very much probable that an difference between no light at all or even a small LED rear light could be a difference between a driver seeing him in time, or hitting him. Pretty good work spotting it and doing something about it, if everyone was like that roads would be much safer for cyclists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooljersey View Post
    Driving downtown on a relatively busy road after dark and traffic slows quickly. Suddenly I see a cyclist wearing all black and a non-reflective helmet. I think to myself ... idiot!

    As I pass him I notice that he has a headlight. Hmmm... helmet, headlight? I slowed down and sure enough there is a blinkie taillight attached to his seatpost. Trouble is it is not turned on.

    I didn't want to scare the guy (since I was in my car) so I rolled my windows down and when he got into the lane beside me at the stoplight I yelled: (in my friendliest voice)

    "hey buddy -- your tail light is off!"

    Later I watched him blink down the road for several blocks.
    I am glad you were able to do it with a calm tone in your voice. When I see kids w/o a helmet, in the small town I live in, I verbally chew them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris516 View Post
    I am glad you were able to do it with a calm tone in your voice. When I see kids w/o a helmet, in the small town I live in, I verbally chew them out.
    How's that work out? Do they head right to LBS and buy helmets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmostTrick View Post
    I thought you were going to say you were riding your bike home, saw a burning building and stopped to catch a baby that someone tossed out the window.


    There's something about the way you phrased this that makes it Airplane!-worthy in its humor quotient.

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    Good work, wooljersey. Unfortunately, not many motorists will do the same as you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris516 View Post
    I am glad you were able to do it with a calm tone in your voice. When I see kids w/o a helmet, in the small town I live in, I verbally chew them out.
    Then you're an idiot.

    The OP, on the other hand, was doing a good deed here. The chance that ywooljerseyou actually saved the guy's life is pretty slim, but he definitely helped him out. A couple months ago, a motorist told me I had no taillight, and sure enough, it had fallen off as I wormed my way around a barrier about a half mile back.

    He saved me from a 20-mile ride in the dark with no rear light, and while in all probability I would have made it home safe, I was really glad he let me know about the problem.
    Last edited by sanitycheck; 04-09-10 at 07:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris516 View Post
    I am glad you were able to do it with a calm tone in your voice. When I see kids w/o a helmet, in the small town I live in, I verbally chew them out.
    That's funny. When I see kids w/o a helmet in the small town that I live in, I cheer them on and challenge them to a race. We have fun.

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    you didn't 'save anyone's life today'; all you did was not mind your own business

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanitycheck View Post
    A couple months ago, a motorist told me I had no taillight, and sure enough, it had fallen off as I wormed my way around a barrier about a half mile back.

    He saved me from a 20-mile ride in the dark with no rear light, and while in all probability I would have made it home safe, I was really glad he let me know about the problem.
    are you one of those weight weenies that rides without reflectors?


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    Any light is better than no light. You did the right thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randya View Post
    you didn't 'save anyone's life today'; all you did was not mind your own business
    For telling a guy his light is out? That's not intrusive; that's actually helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanitycheck View Post
    For telling a guy his light is out? That's not intrusive; that's actually helpful.
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    Last time I heard that argument, it was from a motorist who told a cyclist to "get on the sidewalk."

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    I am glad you were able to do it with a calm tone in your voice. When I see kids w/o a helmet, in the small town I live in, I verbally chew them out.
    I agree with the others that this method is pretty dumb. Do you think they really care what you tell them? To them, you're just some jerk-off yelling at them. Do you really think they're going to listen to you?

    You wanna make an impact, go knock on their doors and yell at their parents, or maybe their parents won't care either, because their children aren't wearing helmets in the first place.

    If you really wanted to be a good boy-scout, the next time you witness such, flag down the first police car you see so they can go advise their parents it's against the law for a child under 12 to be on a bike without a helmet. I'm sure that beyond the murders, rapes, drug deals, and everything else going on in the city, your good deed will be the first on their list of things to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris516 View Post
    When I see kids w/o a helmet, in the small town I live in, I verbally chew them out.

    Got self-righteousness? For the interests of scientific inquiry, how high does your nose rise, and how far does your chest puff out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randya View Post
    you didn't 'save anyone's life today'; all you did was not mind your own business
    The cyclist had lights, and I think that the OP was correct in assuming that the cyclist would've preferred that they be on and working since he already went to the trouble of purchasing and mounting them. Is it not minding my own business if I notice that another cyclist has a low tire and to offer the use of my pump?

    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
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    Last time I heard that argument, it was from a motorist who told a cyclist to "get on the sidewalk."

    -Kurt
    This is not even close to the same thing. The OP didn't chastise a ninja biker for riding lightless, he gave heads up to a cyclist with both front and rear lights that his taillight was out. If you've ever had a taillight go out, or have forgotten to turn it on, then you'd know that it's not something you notice as you ride.

    I know that the OP is kind of exaggerating with the "saved someone's life" line, but that doesn't mean that what he did wasn't proper, right, and helpful. It was, and was obviously appreciated since the cyclist proceeded to turn on their taillight. If anyone ever sees be biking after dark with my taillight turned off, please tell me. Thanks.

    Also, if anyone notices that I've got some spinach or whatever in my teeth, please tell me. How could you stand there talking to a person and not inform them that they have half of a summer salad still floating around their gums? I suppose if you don't like them, then you might relish the prospect of further embarrassment suffered. But if you like me, please tell me. Thanks.

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    The OP did a good deed that's for sure, but this "Saved someone's life today" thing is from way out in the corn field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
    ^
    Last time I heard that argument, it was from a motorist who told a cyclist to "get on the sidewalk."
    What? You're making no sense; that's an entirely different situation.

    If someone yells at a cyclist to get on the sidewalk, they're being either ignorant, malicious, or both, because cyclists don't belong on the sidewalk.

    If someone yells at a cyclist to wear a helmet, they're being a self-righteous prick, because the cyclist clearly knows he's not wearing a helmet, and didn't offer to debate the issue with random passing motorists.

    If someone tells me that my rear light is off, I thank them, because they just told me something important that I didn't already know, and they were astute enough to realize I would probably want to know it.

    You really don't see any difference?
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    Interesting responses.

    When I saw that the guy had both a helmet and a front light -- I guessed that he probably also had a tail light. When I saw that he did have a tail light, that's when i spoke up.

    It is really no different than if I saw a car with its light off and flashed my car lights at them.

    If he had not had a tail light -- I would not have said anything. My intent was to do the guy a favor
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    Quote Originally Posted by randya View Post
    you didn't 'save anyone's life today'; all you did was not mind your own business
    Perhaps, like me, the OP considers himself a part of the human community and taking simple action for the good of a fellow human part of his "business." This simple act of courtesy is something quite different than some obnoxious critter chewing out kids for riding sans helmet.

    The life saving bit does fail the truth in headlining test.
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    Yeah Randya, everyone should mind their own business. If you see someone's phone, wallet, pannier, whatever fall off, it's their business, and you should definitely not tell them about it. Right?
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