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Old 04-23-10, 03:45 PM   #1
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This was a new one on me

So I was headed home today, and as I was leaving campus, I got stuck in traffic backed up at a light. This intersection is always slow to cross at rush hour, so I do as I do every day, which is take the lane. So I'm stopped behind about 5 cars when we all inch up. As I inch up a bit, I hear a car gun it behind me, so I turn around to see a woman attempting to go around me. She stops, as the line of traffic stops. Then she hits her horn.

I turn around again, thinking WTF is going on here, and she yells out, "move over!" Now, keep in mind again that we are all stopped at a red traffic light!!!!

So I pick up my bike and walk back to her car. She immediately asks me whether I'm turning left or right at the light. I answer left, and then immediately jump into explaining to her about how the Virginia law gives me the right to the lane, and besides, she is at a red light and is not going anywhere. She then says that slow moving traffic has to yield, to which I again mentioned how we were all stopped. At this point, my blood was boiling, so I continued yelling at her. She finally said, "If I could just complete my sentence," to which I of course continued yelling, she rolled up her window.

I should have blasted her with my airzound as I stood there at her window. My sister said I should just smile and move on, but that goes against my personality. I'm sure it would have had a better result.

But anyway, I had to vent. It's days like today where I really question my drive to continue this car-lite lifestyle.
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Old 04-23-10, 04:05 PM   #2
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Your sister is right. Listen to her and your life will improve.
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I should have blasted her with my airzound as I stood there at her window. My sister said I should just smile and move on, but that goes against my personality. I'm sure it would have had a better result.
Hate to say it, but your sister is right. Next time, no matter how much this goes against the grain, smile and wave politely. When a motorist is angry, it seems like there's nothing more insulting to them than other peoples' happiness.

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But anyway, I had to vent. It's days like today where I really question my drive to continue this car-lite lifestyle.
We all need to vent now and then, even when we're in the wrong. And you were 100 % in the right, even tried to educate the driver about the law. But don't give up the bike!
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I agree with you guys that my sister is right. It just took me off guard, and my innate nature overrode my better sense.

I won't give up the bike. But times like these are so frustrating, since all I'm doing is just minding my own business, just trying to ride home. Had I been in a car, I wouldn't have been harassed, but just because I was using a different form of transportation, someone went out of her way to give me a hard time.

The drawbacks to using a car are too great, so I'll stick with the bike. I just wish we could make some strides to educate people about bikes' access to the road wholesale. Here in Virginia, it feels like we are so backwards. When compared to progressive places like New York or Portland, we are in the dark ages here.
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Methinks I might want to get myself a Mickey Mouse hand and smile and wave my hand at anyone who's trying to get me to move over.

Okay, I'm kidding.
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grab your balls and yell "blow me wh*re!"
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Smile and wave, boys. Smile and wave.

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"You don't need to complete your sentence, because the Vehicle Code says you're wrong, and you don't have a leg to stand on, BEOTCH!!"
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Are you by chance in Richmond VA? If so then just whip out your U-lock and slam it down on her hood. She will get the message.
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Nothing wrong with venting once in awhile. Just don't let you anger consume you, as it did Obi Wan's apprentice. That is the path to the Dark Side. (I just had to toss that in.... )

Your story reminds me of something that happened to me. I was stopped at the Intersection of Main st. and Stow Street. (Waltham, MA) There are two lanes here. One if for right turns only, onto stow street. The other is for going straight ahead. So, I'm waiting at the red light, in the straight ahead lane. I'm the only one there at the moment. I hear the sound of a gunning engine behind me. (Gotta love that gunning engine, used as a show of force) There's this rather battered looking Olds behind me now, with a very agitated woman at the wheel. She toots again, then gives me this "What's wrong with you" look. Then she cuts into the right turn lane. She pulls up, and shrieks "You're in the wrong lane!"
A male, in the passenger seat, yells something about "you should be over der!". Then the light turns green, and they go rumbling off, leaving behind a lovely cloud of worn-rings smoke. Yep, they went straight ahead, from the right turn only lane. I was just wishing a cop would come out of a side street, but no such luck.

Sometimes, you just can't win.
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I think you did the right thing by telling her that the law is on your side. She will probably think twice about honking at bicyclists after you confronted her like that.
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Nothing wrong with venting once in awhile. Just don't let you anger consume you, as it did Obi Wan's apprentice. That is the path to the Dark Side. (I just had to toss that in.... )

Your story reminds me of something that happened to me. I was stopped at the Intersection of Main st. and Stow Street. (Waltham, MA) There are two lanes here. One if for right turns only, onto stow street. The other is for going straight ahead. So, I'm waiting at the red light, in the straight ahead lane. I'm the only one there at the moment. I hear the sound of a gunning engine behind me. (Gotta love that gunning engine, used as a show of force) There's this rather battered looking Olds behind me now, with a very agitated woman at the wheel. She toots again, then gives me this "What's wrong with you" look. Then she cuts into the right turn lane. She pulls up, and shrieks "You're in the wrong lane!"
A male, in the passenger seat, yells something about "you should be over der!". Then the light turns green, and they go rumbling off, leaving behind a lovely cloud of worn-rings smoke. Yep, they went straight ahead, from the right turn only lane. I was just wishing a cop would come out of a side street, but no such luck.

Sometimes, you just can't win.
You'd win here in California, after reporting that license plate number to the DMV, and they had to take the time and money to get a smog check-up.
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Old 04-23-10, 06:23 PM   #13
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Are you by chance in Richmond VA? If so then just whip out your U-lock and slam it down on her hood. She will get the message.
hahaha, I am! And why is that a good strategy in Richmond?
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Nothing wrong with venting once in awhile. Just don't let you anger consume you, as it did Obi Wan's apprentice. That is the path to the Dark Side. (I just had to toss that in.... )

Your story reminds me of something that happened to me. I was stopped at the Intersection of Main st. and Stow Street. (Waltham, MA) There are two lanes here. One if for right turns only, onto stow street. The other is for going straight ahead. So, I'm waiting at the red light, in the straight ahead lane. I'm the only one there at the moment. I hear the sound of a gunning engine behind me. (Gotta love that gunning engine, used as a show of force) There's this rather battered looking Olds behind me now, with a very agitated woman at the wheel. She toots again, then gives me this "What's wrong with you" look. Then she cuts into the right turn lane. She pulls up, and shrieks "You're in the wrong lane!"
A male, in the passenger seat, yells something about "you should be over der!". Then the light turns green, and they go rumbling off, leaving behind a lovely cloud of worn-rings smoke. Yep, they went straight ahead, from the right turn only lane. I was just wishing a cop would come out of a side street, but no such luck.

Sometimes, you just can't win.
The show of force is funny, because my experience has been that they scream and yell until I go back to them and confront them. Then there is something about this 6'4" guy standing there next to their window confronting them that causes their demeanor to change substantially.
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I think you did the right thing by telling her that the law is on your side. She will probably think twice about honking at bicyclists after you confronted her like that.
Thanks. And thanks to everyone else showing support! I hope that she will think twice, but she'll probably only do so because she will be afraid of being confronted. She'll make sure only to act like that when she can't be confronted, while she's at speed.
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Been a while Since I had one of these incidents, but they do happen with unfortunate regularity. I had a guy honk at me while at the front of the left turn lane (i was even their first). I gave him the WHAT?!?!?!?. he honked again and pointed, like I was supposed to get on the crosswalk or somthing-I honestly don't know. I was getting a little frustrated because I wasn't sure what exactly he thought was a problem, when the women in the car next to me rolled down her window and said:

"Don't worry about him. He's old."

Which I guess was pretty much it. I just relaxed and waited for the light.
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Sounds like the one that happened to me a couple years ago, riding to work.

The left turn into the store parking lot is less than 80 yards from a stop-sign-controlled right turn at a T intersection; in preparation to make that left after leaving the stop sign behind, I took the the left of the lane (my mistake, too far left, but...), only to have the b**ch in the car behind me BUZZ ME ON THE RIGHT, cut off my turn, and hurry her fat ass in the store.

Fuming, I walked the bike in the front door, saw her, and gave her hell; her determined response was, "You're supposed to be all the way to the right!" Even after barking about my making a left turn, she still believed I was supposed to stay right, wait for traffic to clear, then make my turn.

She still recognizes me when she comes in the store; clams up and frowns real quick, and beats feet for the door.

You better believe I use the left tire track for left turns NOW.
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We've all been yelled at for those similar reasons (specifically, existing), but I always think back to the time I was honked at angrily by some lady while riding legally in the right-hand lane of a three-lane road in the downtown area of a big city. A few seconds later, we all stopped at a light and a bike cop pulled up next to her, knocked on her window, and gave her a long explanation of the law. Miracles happen.
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Your sister gave good advice. Is she hot looking?
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We've all been yelled at for those similar reasons (specifically, existing), but I always think back to the time I was honked at angrily by some lady while riding legally in the right-hand lane of a three-lane road in the downtown area of a big city. A few seconds later, we all stopped at a light and a bike cop pulled up next to her, knocked on her window, and gave her a long explanation of the law. Miracles happen.
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First mistake: You tried to explain the law using rationality and logic.
I've yet to see it work with those people.
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I should have blasted her with my airzound as I stood there at her window.
and told her "my horn's louder than your horn"
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and told her "my horn's louder than your horn"
If I didn't live in The South this would be my new official policy.
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Thursday while going to the library I was approaching the intersection of 73rd Ave. N. and 9th St. N. I was within a few yards and alternating between the slow/stop and left turn signals. When I had this dumb broad in a Cadillac SUV swoop around me to get to the stop sign first. She was also making a left hand turn. And had to wait for at least the northbound traffic on 9th St. N. before she could turn. Had she had not swooped and allowed me to remain in my rightful place it would not have slowed her down in the slightest.

Also a couple of days before that as I was attempting to cross 4th St. N. I was "blocking" a woman who was traveling south and wanting to turn in into the complex. She tried to wave me across the road in front of her car. I pointed behind her and told her that there were still two cars too close for me to do so safely.
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Also a couple of days before that as I was attempting to cross 4th St. N. I was "blocking" a woman who was traveling south and wanting to turn in into the complex. She tried to wave me across the road in front of her car. I pointed behind her and told her that there were still two cars too close for me to do so safely.
I've always wondered which is worse. They stop completely in a through lane because they think they are helping you out, or that they seem to have no clue that there are other cars on the road with them, and where they are?
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