FL Legislature passes mandatory bike-lane-use law, doesn't consult cyclists
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FL Legislature passes mandatory bike-lane-use law, doesn't consult cyclists
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If you live in a state without a mandatory bike-lane-use law and think you're safe, think again.
I love the picture of the right-hook bike lane to the right of the right turn only lane on the page.
If you live in a state without a mandatory bike-lane-use law and think you're safe, think again.
I love the picture of the right-hook bike lane to the right of the right turn only lane on the page.
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Looks like the text starts at the bottom of p.17 here: https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sectio...1&Session=2010
I am surprised to see this design on what appears to be fairly recent paving/striping:
I am surprised to see this design on what appears to be fairly recent paving/striping:
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The new section underlined:
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316.2065 Bicycle regulations.
(5)(a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride in the lane marked for bicycle use or, if no lane is marked for bicycle use, as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
(5)(a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride in the lane marked for bicycle use or, if no lane is marked for bicycle use, as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
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Hey, taking that sidewalk route will be mandatory come Sept.1. Have fun! Oh yeah, you get to share that sidewalk with golf carts too!
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https://www.flgov.com/contact_form
Send to the Lt. Governor as well: Jeff.Kottkamp@MyFlorida.com
Send to your representatives as well as well as your senator:
https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/
https://billnelson.senate.gov/
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Send to the Lt. Governor as well: Jeff.Kottkamp@MyFlorida.com
Send to your representatives as well as well as your senator:
https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/
https://billnelson.senate.gov/
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In California we also have a mandatory bike lane law (albeit with various exceptions), but it does not apply to a separate path that's parallel to a street or highway. From the quoted Florida law, I'd expect the same situation to apply there.
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So what's the big deal??? I guess you can't take the lane if you are moving at slower speeds then traffic flow. I see no reason to panic, unless you can't ride if there is no bike lane.
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Legalities aside once the public knows of this law, motorists will likely be more willing to harass cyclists who choose to not use the sidewalk in this place.
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Fight for better designs! If BL are mandatory, then the state has liability issues with poor designs.
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I don't see any exceptions to these in the text of the law (although one can try and argue that staying out of a door zone is 'avoiding a parked vehicle', good luck with that!)
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316.2065 Bicycle regulations.
(5)(a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride in the lane marked for bicycle use or, if no lane is marked for bicycle use, as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
Assuming the exceptions are reasonable, what is the problem here? Isn't this thread just another FRAP discussion?
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(5)(a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride in the lane marked for bicycle use or, if no lane is marked for bicycle use, as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
Assuming the exceptions are reasonable, what is the problem here? Isn't this thread just another FRAP discussion?
roughstuff
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316.2065 Bicycle regulations.
(5)(a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride in the lane marked for bicycle use or, if no lane is marked for bicycle use, as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
Assuming the exceptions are reasonable, what is the problem here? Isn't this thread just another FRAP discussion?
(5)(a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride in the lane marked for bicycle use or, if no lane is marked for bicycle use, as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
Assuming the exceptions are reasonable, what is the problem here? Isn't this thread just another FRAP discussion?
edit: and as noted in posts below it appears the exceptions do not even apply when a BL is present
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Cool, 4 DUI's? Don't worry, you can still get your license back...
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316.2065 Bicycle regulations.
(5)(a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride in the lane marked for bicycle use or, if no lane is marked for bicycle use, as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
Assuming the exceptions are reasonable, what is the problem here? Isn't this thread just another FRAP discussion?
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(5)(a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride in the lane marked for bicycle use or, if no lane is marked for bicycle use, as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
Assuming the exceptions are reasonable, what is the problem here? Isn't this thread just another FRAP discussion?
roughstuff
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Not that I expect it will do much good, but perhaps LAB members ought to write to Andy Clark about this.
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316.2065 Bicycle regulations.
(5)(a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride in the lane marked for bicycle use or, if no lane is marked for bicycle use, as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
1. When overtaking and passing another bicycle or vehicle proceeding in the same direction.
2. When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
3. When reasonably necessary to avoid any condition, including, but not limited to, a fixed or moving object, parked or moving vehicle, bicycle, pedestrian, animal, surface hazard, or substandard-width lane, that makes it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge.
For the purposes of this subsection, a "substandard-width lane" is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and another vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.
(5)(a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride in the lane marked for bicycle use or, if no lane is marked for bicycle use, as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
1. When overtaking and passing another bicycle or vehicle proceeding in the same direction.
2. When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
3. When reasonably necessary to avoid any condition, including, but not limited to, a fixed or moving object, parked or moving vehicle, bicycle, pedestrian, animal, surface hazard, or substandard-width lane, that makes it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge.
For the purposes of this subsection, a "substandard-width lane" is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and another vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.
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Sent to the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, Florida Senator, and the representative for my district. Please excuse it if the argument is a bit rushed, but I didn't have much time to write it:
-Kurt
It has come to my attention that proposed bill HB 971 contains a revision to 316.2065 (5) (a); which adds a mandatory bike lane use restriction for bicycle users.
As both a motorist and a cyclist, I am infuriated that such a revision has been slated for implementation. Besides the fact that such a revision was not properly publicized to the cycling community beforehand, the process of forcing cyclists to utilize bike lanes when bike lanes exist is both dangerous and discriminatory to cyclists as legitimate road users, commuters, and citizens; as I will explain below. In addition, such a law will also inconvenience motor vehicle users and directly result in an increased frequency of potential fatal and non-fatal cycling-related accidents.
This mandatory cycle lane use law opens cyclists up to innumerable hazards and avoidable issues, all of which can be averted under the current, unrevised law. This includes, but is not limited to:
-Forcing cyclists to use bike lanes which travel adjacent to parallel parking spaces, which severely increase the chances that a cyclist will be hit by a motorist opening his or her car door. Arguably one of the most repeatedly fatal issues listed here,
-Forcing the use of bike lanes placed immediately behind angled (nose-first) parking spaces, forcing cyclists into a blind spot wherein motorists cannot see approaching cyclists. Accidents in such case can be completely avoided in such cases - had the cyclist been allowed to utilize the full lane, thereby giving the cyclist an opportunity to be properly seen by the motorist,
-Forces cyclists to use all forms of bike lanes created under outdated FHWA Manuals on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (M.U.T.C.D.), including bike lanes which do not end within 100 feet of an intersection,
-Contradicts exceptions presently outlined in 316.2065, making it far more difficult for cyclists to protect themselves against motorist harassment and defend their legal positions in court,
-Increases the potential for law enforcement to unfairly harass and issue erroneous citations to cyclists,
-Forces cyclists to defer to sidewalks when bike lanes merge with such sidepaths, despite the fact that it has been shown that shared paths are not proper facilities for cycle commuter traffic.
This issue affects cyclists of all walks of life: families, commuters, enthusiasts, car-free citizens, and those who own motor vehicles as well. These are law-abiding, proud citizens of Florida who appreciate proper and just laws. To enact this revision to 316.2065 would be an injustice to the people of Florida. Even the latest M.U.T.C.D. notes that sharrow-style markings and similar markings are superior to the outdated, poor design of the majority of bike lanes.
Over the last two years, the various cities of Florida have since increased their efforts to make Florida a better place for all road users, particularly cyclists. These efforts have opened countless opportunities for Florida to reduce its historically elevated cyclist accident rates; additionally, these improvements have also created extensive positive press for Florida cycling in media, both online and print - this has undoubtedly encouraged cyclists from other states to vacation in the wonderful weather of Florida whilst enjoying their favorite hobby. The addition of this revision to 316.2065 (5) (a) would singlehandedly defeat all the commendable progress made so far.
This said, I earnestly suggest that this particular revision be repealed - it is arguably the largest defeat Florida cycling could have in the last 20 years, if not more. Please, think of the needless exasperation, injury, and lives that can be spared if this unnecessary revision to the law was repealed.
Thank you very much for your time.
As both a motorist and a cyclist, I am infuriated that such a revision has been slated for implementation. Besides the fact that such a revision was not properly publicized to the cycling community beforehand, the process of forcing cyclists to utilize bike lanes when bike lanes exist is both dangerous and discriminatory to cyclists as legitimate road users, commuters, and citizens; as I will explain below. In addition, such a law will also inconvenience motor vehicle users and directly result in an increased frequency of potential fatal and non-fatal cycling-related accidents.
This mandatory cycle lane use law opens cyclists up to innumerable hazards and avoidable issues, all of which can be averted under the current, unrevised law. This includes, but is not limited to:
-Forcing cyclists to use bike lanes which travel adjacent to parallel parking spaces, which severely increase the chances that a cyclist will be hit by a motorist opening his or her car door. Arguably one of the most repeatedly fatal issues listed here,
-Forcing the use of bike lanes placed immediately behind angled (nose-first) parking spaces, forcing cyclists into a blind spot wherein motorists cannot see approaching cyclists. Accidents in such case can be completely avoided in such cases - had the cyclist been allowed to utilize the full lane, thereby giving the cyclist an opportunity to be properly seen by the motorist,
-Forces cyclists to use all forms of bike lanes created under outdated FHWA Manuals on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (M.U.T.C.D.), including bike lanes which do not end within 100 feet of an intersection,
-Contradicts exceptions presently outlined in 316.2065, making it far more difficult for cyclists to protect themselves against motorist harassment and defend their legal positions in court,
-Increases the potential for law enforcement to unfairly harass and issue erroneous citations to cyclists,
-Forces cyclists to defer to sidewalks when bike lanes merge with such sidepaths, despite the fact that it has been shown that shared paths are not proper facilities for cycle commuter traffic.
This issue affects cyclists of all walks of life: families, commuters, enthusiasts, car-free citizens, and those who own motor vehicles as well. These are law-abiding, proud citizens of Florida who appreciate proper and just laws. To enact this revision to 316.2065 would be an injustice to the people of Florida. Even the latest M.U.T.C.D. notes that sharrow-style markings and similar markings are superior to the outdated, poor design of the majority of bike lanes.
Over the last two years, the various cities of Florida have since increased their efforts to make Florida a better place for all road users, particularly cyclists. These efforts have opened countless opportunities for Florida to reduce its historically elevated cyclist accident rates; additionally, these improvements have also created extensive positive press for Florida cycling in media, both online and print - this has undoubtedly encouraged cyclists from other states to vacation in the wonderful weather of Florida whilst enjoying their favorite hobby. The addition of this revision to 316.2065 (5) (a) would singlehandedly defeat all the commendable progress made so far.
This said, I earnestly suggest that this particular revision be repealed - it is arguably the largest defeat Florida cycling could have in the last 20 years, if not more. Please, think of the needless exasperation, injury, and lives that can be spared if this unnecessary revision to the law was repealed.
Thank you very much for your time.
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Nice work Kurt.