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Old 11-08-10, 02:50 PM   #1
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Rift in CBC between weekend warriors and urban transportation riders

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Should the largest cycling club on the West Coast be edgy and aggressive, or polite and well-connected? The group debates its direction after the sudden firing of its executive director.
http://crosscut.com/2010/11/05/trans...-Bicycle-Club/

http://totcycle.com/blog/turmoil-in-tyvek.html
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Old 11-08-10, 04:47 PM   #2
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The Hugo Kugiya in Crosscut is well done.
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Old 11-11-10, 07:25 PM   #3
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One thing that kills cycling advocacy is the fact that, whenever and wherever it gets a bit cold or wet the cyclists disappear. It is pretty hard to be taken seriously as a means of transportation if the vast majority of the people who claim to be cyclists use cars for most of their transportation desires. I guess that puts me on the side of the edgiest of the urban riders, even though I also ride for exercise and the pure joy of it.
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Old 11-11-10, 07:27 PM   #4
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totally disagree, Seattle and Portland have lots of year 'round cyclists, and some of us actually like it better when the fair weather cyclists disappear for the season

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Compared to what usually happens to at-fault motorists, Hiller's statement isn't radical.
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What is going on? I agree with everyone here. The Crosscut article was a nice read. Cycling has become a seasonal activity which does diminish our clout in getting better infrastructure and laws. I also happen to enjoy it when the fair-weather riders disappear, along with the masses of fat three-across pedestrians blocking our few bike paths (along with their dogs). I'll leave the definition of "a lot" to whoever wants to define it. However, when the cars outnumber the bikes by orders of magnitude, I don't think it is a term that applies (except in our memories of the past and hopes for the future).It is truly no joke that if you want to kill someone just give them a bike and get in your car; they die and you might risk 4 weeks on road crew as the maximum sentence. In light of that fact, Hiller's comment was quite mild.
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I think one of the most poisonous things to bike advocacy is the demonizing of the "wrong" kinds of cyclist.
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without reading the articles (I'm currently on limited internet access) it seems to me, the larger group would be transportational cyclists and by leaning towards their needs, the group could have a wider range of support
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