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Old 11-23-10, 07:38 PM   #1
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Saw a salmon get hit today

It happened pretty quickly--a guy on a bike was riding on the sidewalk, facing traffic. He pulled out onto the road just as a car was making a right hand turn from a side street, and either he hit the left fender, or the car nudged him, I didn't see exactly which. He went down. I was going in the same direction and pulled over to see if he was ok, and the car driver opened his door and may have spoke, I couldn't hear for the noise of my truck. The guy with the bike (I hestiate to call him a "cyclist"...) got up, rubbed his knee, and took off. Onto the sidewalk, facing traffic. The car driver closed his door and drove away, and I did, too.

I saw him ride another couple of blocks, then ride across the crosswalk ahead of me, and ride down a side street, but this time he was on the road, and on the proper side. He and the bike didn't have any discernible wobble...
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Old 11-23-10, 11:28 PM   #2
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Aren't the salmon supposed to leap over obstacles like cars as they fight their way upstream? Not to excuse the salmon, but would the motorist have struck a pedestrian in the same situation? Most motorists only look left when making right turns. In my younger and more confrontational days, I used to walk on top of the hoods of cars that rolled into the intersections when I was crossing. My size 16 shoes left some large dents in several of them.
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Old 11-23-10, 11:46 PM   #3
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It's always so nice to see cyclists dehumanizing other cyclists by calling them salmon on this forum.

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Old 11-24-10, 08:52 AM   #4
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It's always so nice to see cyclists dehumanizing other cyclists by calling them salmon on this forum.
It is nice, isn't it.
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Old 11-24-10, 09:08 AM   #5
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IF HE LANDED ON HIS KNEE THAT MIGHT CONTRIBUTE TO A FUTURE REQUIREMENT FOR A CARTILAGE SCOPING (sorry 'bout the all-caps)
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I don't see how a sidewalk cyclist can be considered a salmon. There was a discussion on here a couple of years ago, and most state laws do not require sidewalk riders to go in the same way as the traffic does.
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Old 11-24-10, 09:49 AM   #7
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I don't see how a sidewalk cyclist can be considered a salmon.
If I saw a cyclist riding upstream on sidewalk, that's what I'd call him, too. Even if the law allows it, common sense should guide people toward NOT riding toward traffic on the sidewalk. If a car is coming out of an alley or parking lot, the driver can usually see much better to his left, and the last look he needs to give is to his left. During that time, if you've got a building or bushes on the right, a pedestrian will probably be moving slowly enough to not be a factor, but a faster-moving cyclist is at much more risk in this situation.
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It's always so nice to see cyclists dehumanizing other cyclists by calling them salmon on this forum.
I take that sort of thing as the poster providing a signal of personal insecurity combined with mental and emotional inadequacy.
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I was almost hit by a sidewalk cyclist this morning while walking to the T stop. Yelled at him to get on the road and he wasn't even a salmon, just a jackass.
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It wasn't this guy was it?
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I take that sort of thing as the poster providing a signal of personal insecurity combined with mental and emotional inadequacy.
Or a sense of humor.
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It's always so nice to see cyclists dehumanizing other cyclists by calling them salmon on this forum.
.... in this case salmon is not dehumanizing as it is really describing behavior in a way that is well understood and much simpler than "wrong way bicycle riders" just as Bike Ninja is a well understood way to describe "bicylist who is invisible at night due to wearing dark clothes, with no passive (reflectors) or active (lights) visibility devices"

ever forum/hobby/business has it's jargon

personally I think calling motorists cagers is much more dehumanizing.
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It wasn't this guy was it?
Do not "dehumanize" a cyclist
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The sad thing is the salmon will probably continue to be a salmon. Hey, he survived the collision so his strategy was "successful".
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Do not "dehumanize" a cyclist
It isn't de-humanizing so much as pro-jackassifying. But I am a glass half full kinda person.
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It's always so nice to see cyclists dehumanizing other cyclists by calling them salmon on this forum.
What's a better term?
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too bad he got away.... you could have filleted him and taken him home! I like a little grilled salmon with lemon butter and dill...
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too bad he got away.... you could have filleted him and taken him home! I like a little grilled salmon with lemon butter and dill...
Make sure he is wild. The farmed ones are full of PCBs.
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...The farmed ones are full of PCBs.
That would explain why he did what he did.
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Sidewalks are two directional. There is no wrong way. Why does this nonsense keep coming up?
Everywhere I ride the law requires a turning car to stop for anything and everything on a sidewalk or in a crosswalk.
Unless the cyclists was crossing against a light or signal, the driver is completely at fault.
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Old 11-26-10, 06:07 PM   #21
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Here it doesn't matter which direction you are going, it's illegal to ride on the sidewalk. It's also illegal to ride on the side of the road facing traffic. Neither the cyclist nor the driver were particularly attentive, it seems to me.
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It's always so nice to see cyclists dehumanizing other cyclists by calling them salmon on this forum.
"Salmon" is a great descriptive term. I instantly got the picture the OP was describing. As far as dehumanizing, don't think anyone thought it was actual fish that got hit.
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"Salmon" is a great descriptive term. I instantly got the picture the OP was describing. As far as dehumanizing, don't think anyone thought it was actual fish that got hit.
That's the problem *rolleyes*
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City law where I live:

"Sec. 7-52 (c) No person shall ride or operate a bicycle in any direction except that permitted by vehicular traffic on the same side of the roadway where the sidewalk or bicycle lane exists; provided, that bicycles may proceed either way where signs or pavement markings on the sidewalk, bikeway or bicycle lane appear designating two-way traffic."
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I was briefly a salmon today, but then I was lost and accidentally turned down a one way street that had no traffic so I salmoned it for a block or so.
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