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Old 11-07-04, 07:16 PM   #1
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Helmets

I was riding home from my local, at 2 this afternoon. I'd had about three too many, but I certainly wasn't walking home... I had to puke, and I hate to do that on the street. Anyway, I put on my helmet and took a wrong turn out of the bar, away from my house. Then this idiot pulls out in front of me, at the light, which I believe was green for me and red for him, and I hadda swerve and he clipped my front wheel and I bailed in the intersection. I rolled sidelong twice, lost my omelete mid roll, and hadda bike the rest of the way home covered in vomit. The guy just kept going, but he honked. I was seeing double so I couldn't make out his license plate. I did not hit my head. Not at all.

This helmet makes me sweat like hell all summer, and I finally have a good wreck, you know not just riding into the curb when tossed, I actually got HIT, and it did NOTHING. I'm never wearing it again.

I've learned my lesson.
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Old 11-07-04, 07:51 PM   #2
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Somehow I doubt it, or at least not the lesson you should've learned.
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Old 11-07-04, 08:10 PM   #3
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Hey, Crunk - is this a troll? Because if so, pretty funny! If not... man, you're learnin' the wrong lesson(s).
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Old 11-08-04, 05:34 AM   #4
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What are you guys talking about? Whats a troll? Someone with a hard head that doesn't need a helmet?
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Dude, without the helmet there's a good chance your noggin coulda split like a ripe melon.

Get over it, get a new helmet, that old one's toast.
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Old 11-12-04, 05:24 PM   #7
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So you get sick drinking, decide to ride home, get hit at a light you think was green, and the wisdom you gleam from the experience is that you don't need a helmet. Good luck dude
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Old 11-13-04, 12:45 AM   #8
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helmets suck. they ruin your hair and mess up your... um... whatever... they mess up your hair. what more reason do you need. helmets are the bain of the cycling world. helmets are the capitalist attempt to destroy cycling. stop supporting these capitalist pigs. stop wearing your helmet while you still can. bell and giro are nothing more than capitalist front goups designed to promote helmets as the answer to accidents but they only suck in money and give nothing in return. answers which only suport capitalism. stop wearing helmets before it's tool late.

ok...I'm pissed (drunk for you non-hip types). I'll stop typing now.

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Old 11-13-04, 02:40 AM   #9
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Riding while drunk is at least not as dangerous to the innocent as DWI. I highly recommend those who ride under the influence not wear a helmet. Advancement of the species will result.
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Old 11-13-04, 02:50 AM   #10
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The REAL problem is you live in Atlanta. I don't know who's idea it was to build that city, but I think their train of thought went something like this,
"I'd like to live in the southern part of the South, and just so nobody ever gets cold I'd like to cover everything in concrete and asphalt, to enhance the wonderful effect of the humidity. Also, instead of any urban planning, we're going to throw spaghetti at a map and those will be the streets. This way there can never be any effective public transportation, and you won't ever be able to find anything, ever!"
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Old 11-13-04, 04:50 AM   #11
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My mother skidded on some wet leaves and hit a tree in the family's '57 Chevy station wagon - a nine-seater with 3 bench seats. She wa apparently doing a good clip because she was thrown from the car and the engine wound up in the middle seat.

Decades later, and right to the end, it would make her nervous as hell when I insisted she wear a seat belt when I drove her somewhere. She went to her grave knowing seat belts kill!
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My helmet sucks.
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My friend David was biking once when he lost control (not sure how, he was probably doing something stupid, or as we put it, "Pulled a Dave.") and crashed into a telephone pole. He went over his handle bars, and slammed headfirst into the pole. His helmet cracked in half and he blacked out. When he came to this woman was standing over him and he said to her, "It's okay dad, I'm fine."

I never going riding without my helmet.
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I like this article:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/opine/helmets.html
Especially this quote:
1. On a per-mile basis, the odds of being killed or sustaining a serious head injury while riding a bicycle are about the same as the odds of being killed or injured while out for a walk.
2. On a per-capita basis, the odds of being killed while riding a bicycle are nearly the same as the odds of being killed by a bolt of lightning (this author has, in fact, been struck by lightning -- albeit indirectly -- so he is well aware that "extremely improbable" is not quite the same as "impossible"); the odds of sustaining a serious head injury while riding a bicycle are about half the odds of sustaining a serious injury while out for a walk.

Still, I do wear my helmet every day.
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Old 11-14-04, 08:22 PM   #15
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I like this article:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/opine/helmets.html
Especially this quote:
1. On a per-mile basis, the odds of being killed or sustaining a serious head injury while riding a bicycle are about the same as the odds of being killed or injured while out for a walk.
2. On a per-capita basis, the odds of being killed while riding a bicycle are nearly the same as the odds of being killed by a bolt of lightning (this author has, in fact, been struck by lightning -- albeit indirectly -- so he is well aware that "extremely improbable" is not quite the same as "impossible"); the odds of sustaining a serious head injury while riding a bicycle are about half the odds of sustaining a serious injury while out for a walk.

Still, I do wear my helmet every day.
My helmet doesn't mess up my hair because I don't have any on top. If I don't wear a helmet I'll definitely end up in the hospital with 3rd degree burns. The poster that started this thread doesn't realize that the holes in his helmet are there so when he gets sick, it doesn't stay in there, but can ooze out and dry before he gets home drunk.
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Old 11-14-04, 09:08 PM   #16
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Old 11-14-04, 09:17 PM   #17
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I like this article:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/opine/helmets.html
Especially this quote:
1. On a per-mile basis, the odds of being killed or sustaining a serious head injury while riding a bicycle are about the same as the odds of being killed or injured while out for a walk.
Erm....I ride 30 miles like it's nothing, and I'm not an accomplished rider or anything. I certainly don't walk that much at a time, I probably don't walk that much in 2 weeks. So if I ride 30 miles at a time, say 3 days a week, with a 60 mile ride thrown in for a total of 150 miles a week, that means I have 5 times the chance (not odds, but opportunity) of sustaining a serious head injury while riding as opposed to walking.

Given that riding is more often done in direct proximity to vehicular traffic, I'd say that to believe that your chances are the same on a per mile basis is a fool.
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Besides a helmet, I need a facemask! Previously, I never wore a helmet. Last Thursday I was early to the trainstation so I found an empty section of the parking lot and was going very fast through turns, really leaning into them. Great fun. I just kept gong faster and faster until on one turn I heard my tires skid out from under me. I don't remember hitting the ground, just getting up and seeing alot of blood. Someone against helmets might say one wouldn't have helped, but I'm not sure that the side of a helmet might not have hit first instead of my face. A helmet sure wouldn't have hurt. I have a motorcycle and I always wear full gear on it, I guess I thought that a bicycle was relatively safe. I was in a tight turn, so I coudn't have been going very fast when I went down, but as you can see I still messed myself up pretty good. Keep in mind I just took these pictures, I look pretty good now compared to right after the wreck. They say when the swelling goes down they will have to re-break my nose and try to straighten it out.

And what's with the hair argument? the wind messes up your hair if you are not wearing a helmet.
As far as the article, it bears repeating that there are three types of lies.
Lies.
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And statistics.
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Old 11-15-04, 04:08 AM   #19
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I was riding home from my local, at 2 this afternoon. I'd had about three too many, but I certainly wasn't walking home... I had to puke, and I hate to do that on the street. Anyway, I put on my helmet and took a wrong turn out of the bar, away from my house. Then this idiot pulls out in front of me, at the light, which I believe was green for me and red for him, and I hadda swerve and he clipped my front wheel and I bailed in the intersection. I rolled sidelong twice, lost my omelete mid roll, and hadda bike the rest of the way home covered in vomit. The guy just kept going, but he honked. I was seeing double so I couldn't make out his license plate. I did not hit my head. Not at all.

This helmet makes me sweat like hell all summer, and I finally have a good wreck, you know not just riding into the curb when tossed, I actually got HIT, and it did NOTHING. I'm never wearing it again.

I've learned my lesson.
You need help.
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I endo'ed at 20 mph, hit the ground head first. Unfortunately, I did not have your cat like reflexes, to roll my body in the 0.125 seconds that it took to go over and impact with the ground.

But for the future, I recommend, since your cat like reflexes are so great, you should never wear a helmet because it makes you sweat and ruins your hair. In the event that a car runs into you from behind and throws you head first into the pavement or car in front of you, well, the chances of that happening are just about as slim as you slipping and hitting your head in the shower, pretty insignificant, so you shouldn't worry about that.
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Okay guys well I changed my mind about the helmet thing.

Here's what happened: I got three big ****ing cow horns in the mail. Finally. I'm going to mount them on my helmet and then I can gore people in accidents. It will be amazing.

Pics to come!
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When he came to this woman was standing over him and he said to her, "It's okay dad, I'm fine."
Your friend David has a transsexual as a dad...?
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Studies on WHO dies riding a bike indicate that males between ages 15 and 40 are the most likely to die. And, the autopsy reports indicate that among those adult riders who are killed, about a third to half were under the influence of booze or drugs at the time of their fatal accident.

So, if we had been lucky enough to have been born a female Mormon, we could ride our bikes with only a very slight risk of being killed. And, a female Morman with a helmet is just about bullet proof.
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Originally Posted by Alphie
I like this article:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/opine/helmets.html
Especially this quote:
1. On a per-mile basis, the odds of being killed or sustaining a serious head injury while riding a bicycle are about the same as the odds of being killed or injured while out for a walk.
2. On a per-capita basis, the odds of being killed while riding a bicycle are nearly the same as the odds of being killed by a bolt of lightning (this author has, in fact, been struck by lightning -- albeit indirectly -- so he is well aware that "extremely improbable" is not quite the same as "impossible"); the odds of sustaining a serious head injury while riding a bicycle are about half the odds of sustaining a serious injury while out for a walk.

Still, I do wear my helmet every day.
while it is quite reassuring to read this article there are a couple of flaws with the analysis of the stats- firstly I notice that the stats don´t take account of present helmet usage. I would say that most cyclists nowadays wear helmets whereas pedestrians/ car drives usually do not. It could be that if cyclists stopped wearing helmets that the death rate would go up 10 fold. Maybe helmets are responsible for the impressive safety record for cycling. Maybe not. You cant tell from the accident data.

Secondly the accident data does not take into account serious injuries and pain. Anthony King´s post show this quite well. He injured his head and maybe would have been better off with a helmet but he did not die so his injuries will not be reflected in any of the stats given.

People should make their own choice about helmet use. Personally I choose to wear a helmet when I cycle. It doesn´t bother me to do so and makes me FEEL a bit safer (rightly or wrongly). But then again I commute in winter also wearing a Dainese safety jacket so maybe I am just over cautious.
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