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    Stay in the bike lane, no matter what.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzE-IMaegzQ

    Pure comedy gold with a great point.

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    That is a video that Bek needs to watch. But he still will NOT get it.


    I loved watching the guy run into the taxi and cop care. How much was his ticket for the cop car incident?
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    Wow! Thanks for that. What a stunt-man!

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    And cops blocking the bike lane while video taping and ticketing cyclist for not riding in the bike lane.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwbRm...eature=related
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    Now I know why they switched NYPD to the kiddie carts seen in the other videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by episodic View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzE-IMaegzQ

    Pure comedy gold with a great point.
    At least he didn't get a ticket or arrested for video taping a LEO performing his duties.
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    I am glad I haven't lived in New York since the 1970's. Because 9/11 victims' notwithstanding, new yorkers could care less about cyclists'. They are only interested in making money and getting somewhere fast. The long-standing unspoken bias of the NYPD towards cyclists', is a perfect example of workforce hatred towards cyclists.

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    Very good entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy View Post
    At least he didn't get a ticket or arrested for video taping a LEO performing his duties.
    It was raining, cop didn't want to get out of the car to arrest him.
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    what kind of an idiot runs into things on his bike?

    -As if there's never anything to avoid on the streets of New York City sans bikelane.

    yes, new york has a mandatory bikelane law that should be fought. absolutely.

    should bikelanes in New York City be fought?

    absolutely not, and i suspect the videographer feels so as well.
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    all I can say is, with all those crashes, I'm glad he was wearing his helmet!

    (Oh wait. He wasn't. Maybe NYC cold discourage cycling even more by giving out tickets for not - even though there's no law against it)
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    ah, the helmet obsessed march in!

    Dude's head would have been better protected for those slow speed crashes and tumbling to the ground like that.

    unquestionably.
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    dude would have been better off moving out of the lane to get away from those obstacles. Unquestionably.

    Vancouvers bike lanes and bike ways are good for something else other than riding too. They're the new way cops are giving tickets to cyclists riding in them. They stand in them or block the way with a motor cycle. Easy stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by closetbiker View Post
    Vancouvers bike lanes and bike ways are good for something else other than riding too. They're the new way cops are giving tickets to cyclists riding in them. They stand in them or block the way with a motor cycle. Easy stop.
    I just cannot fathom that any city's PD would be foolish enough to set up such a deliberate sting operation that is so paper thin to even hold up in court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy View Post
    At least he didn't get a ticket or arrested for video taping a LEO performing his duties.
    Is it illegal to video a cop giving a ticket in NYC? It all depends on the state, but in most states it is legal to video other parties (including police) without their permission, however, it is illegal where I live (Illinois). Here you have to have all parties being recorded's permission to record them (which he could have obtained the officers permission to record it, it did start recording pretty late).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynodonn View Post
    I just cannot fathom that any city's PD would be foolish enough to set up such a deliberate sting operation that is so paper thin to even hold up in court.
    I'm just glad that they're not doing so (so far at least) during Bike Month.

    The last couple of years they've been doing that to "educate" cyclists that they have to follow the laws just like everybody else (as if cyclists didn't know that already)

    I'm suspecting a July campaign.

    It kind of tics me off when advocacy groups put in great effort to provide incentives for people to ride bikes, only to have police decide to provide a disincentive that coordinateswith the incentive
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    Quote Originally Posted by CB HI View Post
    It was raining, cop didn't want to get out of the car to arrest him.
    You're probably right about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsprehe89 View Post
    Is it illegal to video a cop giving a ticket in NYC? It all depends on the state, but in most states it is legal to video other parties (including police) without their permission, however, it is illegal where I live (Illinois). Here you have to have all parties being recorded's permission to record them (which he could have obtained the officers permission to record it, it did start recording pretty late).
    We've had a number of threads here about people being "busted" for video taping the police and other security personal. While I/we agree that it should be legal to do so. Even in those areas where it is legal LEOs will still try to intimidate the photographer into deleting their video/pictures, confiscating their equipment or just generally harassing people until they (the LEOs) get what they want.

    We've seen footage that later cleared innocents of the charges that LEOs have tried to press.
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    I hope Neistat is able to show the LEO that gave him the $50 ticket this video. Also show his superiors so they do more to educate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bekologist View Post
    what kind of an idiot runs into things on his bike?
    An idiot who makes movies anyway and considers himself to be a bit of a stunt man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bekologist View Post
    ah, the helmet obsessed march in!

    Dude's head would have been better protected for those slow speed crashes and tumbling to the ground like that.

    unquestionably.
    That's right. All the times he hit his head and died in that video would have been prevented if only he had worn a helmet.

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    even Bike Snob NYC weighs in on the point...

    http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/

    Speaking of being screwed, many riders were screwed in The Great New York City Bicycle Crackdown of 2011 in that they received tickets for things that were not actually illegal. By now I'm sure nearly everybody on the planet Erf has seen the excellent Casey Neistat video, but it warrants inclusion here nonetheless:



    I enjoyed this tremendously, but the only thing more frustrating than police ticketing cyclists for not riding in a bike lane is that some people are actually giving the filmmaker a hard time for not wearing a helmet. Apparently here in Canada's custom insole cycle-smugness yields to nothing, not even satire.
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    oh, i'm not giving the rider a hard time, i think americans should be allowed to ride sans lid.

    i find it HILARIOUS that the helmet obsessed at Bike Forums made this guys video into a discussion about helmets!


    its not just the pro helmet people that are helmet obsessed.
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    sorry, it's just that the helmet compulsionists can't help but say each and every fall with a helmet saved them from sure death or serious injury yet when confronted with contrary evidence they ignore it.

    That helmeteers made comments about the lack of helmet in this video after it was posted on Tuesday is ridiculous. My post on this thread 2 days after that would have been better served by mentioning this bit of silliness, but I just made the brief comment and pointed out the far worse issue, police issuing tickets for something that isn't an offense.

    Bike lane compulsion is as silly as helmet compulsion. Being able to get out of a bike lane is just as important as retaining the right of choice. And police enforcing fictitious laws for cyclists is anarchy practiced by the very people who should be combatting it.
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    right. this video wasn't about helmets, it was about unjust enforcement in the crackdown of 2011 on bicyclists breaking the law in new york city.

    the NYPD needs bicycle awareness training. who's working on implementing this in NYC?
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