Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 16 of 16
  1. #1
    . . . rosebud . . . Diggy18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Arlington, VA
    My Bikes
    Diamondback Outlook
    Posts
    875
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Turning lights OFF for safety

    Hey does anybody ever turn off their lights at night so as not to make themselves an easy target for mischeif?

    I was riding through this county park tonight. It used to all belong to mental hospital, but now it's a series of paths winding through farmland. The hospital is still there somewhere, too. There's also the local rumor of the Satan's Circle on the grounds somewhere in a copse of trees. Plus the park is on the edge of the county capital, which is known for its crime.

    So as I rode through I thought that I should turn off my lights and go into "stealth mode". I've done that in a shady area of town, too.

  2. #2
    Sum
    Sum is offline
    Newbie Sum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    3
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    hmm, that's a pickle of a situation. if you turn it off, you avoid mischief and the likes, but your chances of getting run over increase, and vice versa. but given the situation, i'd probably do the same, but stay wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy off to the side of the road

  3. #3
    Senior Member larue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Madison, WI
    My Bikes
    Surly Pacer/Cutter/Viking
    Posts
    1,511
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would just stay out of that park.
    Leave your treadmill power trip behind.

  4. #4
    Perineal Pressurized dobber's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    In Ebritated
    Posts
    6,557
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Wear a necklace of garlic and you should be safe, oh wait, that's for vampires.

  5. #5
    One less car Jay H's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    The Berkshires, MA
    My Bikes
    '08 Soma Groove (commuter/long distance tourer), '97 Lemond Zurich (road commuter/tourer),'01 Seven Axiom Ti, '03 Look KG381i, '01 Santa Cruz Superlite X
    Posts
    980
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Wear a necklace of garlic and you should be safe, oh wait, that's for vampires.
    That begs the question of: Would Vampire cyclists show up in your take-a-look bike mirror?


    Jay

  6. #6
    Senior Member DieselDan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Beaufort, South Carolina, USA and surrounding islands.
    My Bikes
    Cannondale R500, Motobecane Messenger
    Posts
    8,522
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sounds cool. There is a house in the old part of town here that causes all of your bike lights to switch off.
    Bikes use brakes to stop.

    If your bike has breaks, don't ride it.

  7. #7
    al-majnoun ma'a daraaja
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Tunisia
    My Bikes
    Specialized Crossroads Euro Elite '99, Masi Gran Corsa '02
    Posts
    13
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    In Tunisia, NOBODY use lights after dark! Many years, I commute nel Italia & in France with lights front & rear, reflector, tape, gilet, casque, etc... I make sure I seen. I begin commute here, look like Christmas tree with wheels. Work people tell me- no lights! no reflectors! Or you will be easy target for shooters! (Algeria very close by, loro sono tutti pazzi.)

    Lights in city, yes, okay. But on road to/from plant, open place, even car have no lights. Also, by day, best is to look like vagabond. Never wash bike, wear old military sopratutto, even Arab kefiya - head scarf.

  8. #8
    RAGBRAI. Need I say more? Steele-Bike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    West Branch, Iowa USA
    My Bikes
    1998 Mongoose NX7.1, 2008 Kona Jake, GT singlespeed (year unknown).
    Posts
    868
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vittorio
    In Tunisia, NOBODY use lights after dark! Many years, I commute nel Italia & in France with lights front & rear, reflector, tape, gilet, casque, etc... I make sure I seen. I begin commute here, look like Christmas tree with wheels. Work people tell me- no lights! no reflectors! Or you will be easy target for shooters! (Algeria very close by, loro sono tutti pazzi.)

    Lights in city, yes, okay. But on road to/from plant, open place, even car have no lights. Also, by day, best is to look like vagabond. Never wash bike, wear old military sopratutto, even Arab kefiya - head scarf.
    Ever thought of moving? Something sounds unsafe about sharing the road with gunmen and non-headlighted cars.

  9. #9
    dam this is fun ! STEEKER's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    on my bike ! in Toronto !!
    My Bikes
    Hurricane Low Racer ! and a Masi
    Posts
    1,988
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Diggy18
    Hey does anybody ever turn off their lights at night so as not to make themselves an easy target for mischeif?

    I was riding through this county park tonight. It used to all belong to mental hospital, but now it's a series of paths winding through farmland. The hospital is still there somewhere, too. There's also the local rumor of the Satan's Circle on the grounds somewhere in a copse of trees. Plus the park is on the edge of the county capital, which is known for its crime.

    So as I rode through I thought that I should turn off my lights and go into "stealth mode". I've done that in a shady area of town, too.
    >> Why would you go along into a Park that is in a high crime area at night ??? that is asking for trouble might not now but during one ride it could happen and no one is around to hear you scream , either go in a group for the night ride or don't go in at all , but your choice ....Steeker

  10. #10
    Hardtail WorldWind's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Az. & Ca.
    My Bikes
    Richey Everest, Supercomp, Richey custom handbuilt Road, and others.
    Posts
    663
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Riding on the boulevard at night and riding in areas with no cars are two very different things.

    When I lived in Los Gatos the bike shop crew did lots of night rides in both large and small groups. I have many stories and much experience in this as it is one of my favorite types of rides.

    The people on this forum don’t seem to post stories so I have refrained from that, but here is a bit of background.

    There are many types of night riding but certainly one of the most thrilling is the stealth ride. This is where you dress in black have a black lycra cover for your helmet and remove or cover anything on the bike that would reflect light.
    Most of us had a night specific bike for these forays in to the darkness. Dark anodized rimes and black spokes and hubs, acid etched derailleur cages and breaks, black lycra tubes for seat posts and painted cassettes.

    The birth of these extreme measures predates my inclusion in the group, but are founded in the fact that many of the truly fine riding areas are closed at dusk The road out to Lake Ranch, Sandborn park, Nycine Marks The Headlands etc. Even St Joseph’s hill is off limits at night. Well this is just unacceptable, and ways to avoid detection and capture were devised.

  11. #11
    Senior Member Violineb's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Baltimore/Bloomington, IN
    My Bikes
    CAAD9 with upgrades
    Posts
    67
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Ah so that´s what stealth biking is all about eh? To get into places where you´re not allowed to be I love riding my bike around Reykjavik at 3 am but I don´t necessarily try not to be seen. Besides, there´s no one out at that time of night anyway. Ever notice that it seems like you´re going faster when it´s darker

  12. #12
    2-Cyl, 1/2 HP @ 90 RPM slvoid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    NYC
    My Bikes
    04' Specialized Hardrock Sport, 03' Giant OCR2 (SOLD!), 04' Litespeed Firenze, 04' Giant OCR Touring, 07' Specialized Langster Comp
    Posts
    15,762
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You'd think a truly stealth bike would be an all black fixie. No derailler noise either.

  13. #13
    Hardtail WorldWind's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Az. & Ca.
    My Bikes
    Richey Everest, Supercomp, Richey custom handbuilt Road, and others.
    Posts
    663
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Most night rides do not entail technical climes or descents so most of us run a double and an old sun-tour 6 speed hub because the cogs are black and you get a strong wheel with a near equal dish. There are a lot more lets say less than graceful unplanned dismounts during a night ride than during the day, so the bike must be up for it. There is no question that silence is a virtue in this type of endeavor but the truth is all of us have mastered the silent shift long before ever being invited on one of these rides. The real trick is stifling the announcements that are common in close single track riding.

    Long fast descents on a moonlight washed fire road would loose all their appeal if you were on a fixie.

  14. #14
    al-majnoun ma'a daraaja
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Tunisia
    My Bikes
    Specialized Crossroads Euro Elite '99, Masi Gran Corsa '02
    Posts
    13
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Steele-Bike
    Ever thought of moving? Something sounds unsafe about sharing the road with gunmen and non-headlighted cars.
    Moving... good idea. Tunisia is big Club Med, terrani golf, all for the tourists... But not too sublime after all... Algeria surround us to west & Libya to east... bad influence, both. But this is fixed-duration tour only. For 4 yrs I run the plant here... with less than halfway to go. After, I am to be only 50, but investments perhaps allow me to retire some place not too expensive. Torino... too expensive. Paris... much too expensive. Presently I look to Greece, perhaps Mexico. (Hmmmmm... opa or olé?)

    Meanwhile, food is great, weather is... dry, bicycle ride is beautiful on mountains to coast of mediterraneo.

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    My Bikes
    Specialized Allez, Look Carbon, Scale 50, Murray Meteor Flyer
    Posts
    58
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vittorio
    allow me to retire some place not too expensive. Torino... too expensive. Paris... much too expensive. Presently I look to Greece, perhaps Mexico. (Hmmmmm... opa or olé?)
    Chile (never been there, but it should be similar to California, but cheaper and more spanish speaking).

    And, yes, I have turned off lights for safety riding in a downtown area that wasn't the safest, but had street lighting. People under the influence can be unpredictable at times.

  16. #16
    Just riding andygates's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Exeter, UK
    My Bikes
    Cannondale Bad Boy / Mercian track / BOB trailer / Moulton recumbent project
    Posts
    651
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Never done that. I don't think like a victim, I think like a vehicle.

    The only time I turn my lights off is on deserted, familiar country roads, just to bask in the wonderful quiet dark moon-on-the-hedgerows loveliness of night riding.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •