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Not a laughing matter Someone left the lid off
Someone really messed up here and someone paid with their life.
https://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/niagara...deadly-manhole
https://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/niagara...deadly-manhole
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Turn this around and think of a hugh car eating hole in the street. The street would have been shut down with lots of warnings for motor vehicles. This shows how much of a car-centric culture we live in. Bike users are on their own and can expect little help. It's still a slap on the wrist if you kill a cyclist even if it's the motor vehicles fault.
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Turn this around and think of a hugh car eating hole in the street. The street would have been shut down with lots of warnings for motor vehicles. This shows how much of a car-centric culture we live in. Bike users are on their own and can expect little help. It's still a slap on the wrist if you kill a cyclist even if it's the motor vehicles fault.
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It could have been that the MH cover was stolen for its scrap value, and it stood open until the authorities were informed. There have been a lot of such incidents lately. If so, perhaps the thieves were nice enough to post cones.
This is the sort of story that the media reports, then you never hear the rest of the story because it gets tangled up in a lawsuit.
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This is the sort of story that the media reports, then you never hear the rest of the story because it gets tangled up in a lawsuit.
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It could have been that the MH cover was stolen for its scrap value, and it stood open until the authorities were informed. There have been a lot of such incidents lately. If so, perhaps the thieves were nice enough to post cones.
This is the sort of story that the media reports, then you never hear the rest of the story because it gets tangled up in a lawsuit.
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This is the sort of story that the media reports, then you never hear the rest of the story because it gets tangled up in a lawsuit.
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I thought of this, too. Did you know that, in Illinois (where I shan't be living that much longer, hopefully), the legal precedent exists to define bikes as "permitted users" but not "intended users" of the road? what this means is that they don't have to make the roads safe for you to use, and they have precedent on their side should they do something negligent like this.
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I thought of this, too. Did you know that, in Illinois (where I shan't be living that much longer, hopefully), the legal precedent exists to define bikes as "permitted users" but not "intended users" of the road? what this means is that they don't have to make the roads safe for you to use, and they have precedent on their side should they do something negligent like this.
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From the pic, it looks like three cones would have been plenty, except that IME the people setting out cones get no training in how to do it sensibly. They probably had them lined up parallel to the direction of travel along the side of the hole, looking to the rider like some sort of temporary bike lane divider.
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It's hard to believe that any City worker would not have barricaded the hole a bit better.
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From the pic, it looks like three cones would have been plenty, except that IME the people setting out cones get no training in how to do it sensibly. They probably had them lined up parallel to the direction of travel along the side of the hole, looking to the rider like some sort of temporary bike lane divider.
Secondly, look at the time of the accident - 11:30 pm - well past dark. I suspect that the rider was a) a ninja, b) a blinking ninja, c) inebriated (a pickled ninja) d) a salmon or e)some combination thereof. If he had lights, I'll bet that they were of the 'to be seen' variety. He may not have even seen the cones.
And there is this
Witnesses tell Niagara Falls Police that Johnson was riding a bicycle down the street when he was hailed by some people on the sidewalk.
"As he turned to look at them, his bike went to the right, and he went past the cones and in to the hole that was opened," said Niagara Falls Police Captain Bill Thompson. "There was a plate (cover) next to the hole...leaving the hole opened," Thompson said, in confirming the hole was not covered when the mishap occurred.
"As he turned to look at them, his bike went to the right, and he went past the cones and in to the hole that was opened," said Niagara Falls Police Captain Bill Thompson. "There was a plate (cover) next to the hole...leaving the hole opened," Thompson said, in confirming the hole was not covered when the mishap occurred.
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Did I miss something?
There were no cones warning the cyclist when the incident happened for reasons we can only speculate about. Since this is A&S, let the speculation, conspiracy theories, alternate realities, & endless debates begin .
Niagara Falls Police are investigating a fatal bicycle accident that involved an open manhole cover on Friday night
The manhole in which the victim fell to his death was covered and marked with traffic cones Saturday afternoon, but Friday night witnesses tell News 4 there was nothing to warn the victim of the danger that lay directly in his path.
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Probably smashed his head against the curb when he fell in. I wonder if there's something that might have helped in this situation?
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Yes there is, the steel plate that was suppose to be covering the excavation such that the cyclist would not fall in.
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So, these angry people who are talking about how many city workers there are, etc. Why didn't they cover the manhole?
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There's some liability to be had on both parts, the cyclist's and the construction company which left the manhole uncovered.
As a cyclist, you really should be prepared for these types of things. There were cones in the street, he needed to have been riding more cautiously.
And of course, the construction company should never have left an unattended manhole uncovered.
Shoot, with the recent flooding Denver had, many manhole covers floated away of their own accord. I remember riding home on Thursday past a manhole cover, only to find an uncovered manhole about 15 feet ahead. If I had went into the manhole, who should have been responsible? The City and County of Denver for an uncontrollable act of mother nature? Mother nature herself? Or me?
As a cyclist, you really should be prepared for these types of things. There were cones in the street, he needed to have been riding more cautiously.
And of course, the construction company should never have left an unattended manhole uncovered.
Shoot, with the recent flooding Denver had, many manhole covers floated away of their own accord. I remember riding home on Thursday past a manhole cover, only to find an uncovered manhole about 15 feet ahead. If I had went into the manhole, who should have been responsible? The City and County of Denver for an uncontrollable act of mother nature? Mother nature herself? Or me?
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If it's a typical construction cover, even 4-5 people moving it around is questionable. If it's also laying on flat ground, it's even harder to pick up or move.
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Watch the video. The cover in question isn't very large. I'm not trying to say that any view points are wrong (seriously... if you dig something up in the street, COVER IT UP OR MAKE IT OBVIOUS!). I'm just saying that the people in this video seem incredibly self-righteous and it seems like they have little to no reason to be.
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Sadly, I can believe it. City workers can be notoriously lazy, not saying that all are. But a good number of them are and will take the easiest way out to do anything.
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Falls Police detectives say they’ve closed their investigation after speaking to witnesses who watched as Kevin Johnson, 44, rode his bike into an uncovered manhole on 17th Street Friday night. Johnson was thrown from his bike by the force of the impact and he struck his head on the edge of the hole
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