Road rage charges from helmet cam
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Every statistical compilation of fatalities by activity Ive sever seen, jibes with this. There are slight variations, of course, but in the end the point is this: cycling itself is inherently safe.
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I'd suggest a call to either the sheriff's office or the state police. As I would say that a cop who is friends with someone being investigated is a clear conflict of interests......And that open-ended threat from the police also needs to be investigated by either the sheriff's office or the state police..
But it isn't going to happen.
And after such a complaint, if you think he's having problems now, you're not going to believe the harassment he will get in the future.
Life's not fair. IMO, he needs to let it lie. You have to pick your battles, and this is not one to pick.
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Outside of the occasional on road harasser or internet message boards, I have a really hard time finding people who believe that bicyclists don't have a legal right to use the roads. I look for them too. I walk around town and even go shopping while wearing my "<bicycle symbol> MAY USE FULL LANE" t-shirt and almost nobody ever asks me about it and the very few that have asked did so out of pure curiosity. They didn't know but they also didn't presume to know otherwise which is what I had expected to find but didn't.
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Wel, yeah.
But it isn't going to happen.
And after such a complaint, if you think he's having problems now, you're not going to believe the harassment he will get in the future.
Life's not fair. IMO, he needs to let it lie. You have to pick your battles, and this is not one to pick.
But it isn't going to happen.
And after such a complaint, if you think he's having problems now, you're not going to believe the harassment he will get in the future.
Life's not fair. IMO, he needs to let it lie. You have to pick your battles, and this is not one to pick.
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Yeah, a few years back I was riding to Tampa approaching the Bayside Bridge when I picked up a piece of wire. Wasn't too happy about that. I think/hope that they're sandspur proof, but I don't want to test it.
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Outside of the occasional on road harasser or internet message boards, I have a really hard time finding people who believe that bicyclists don't have a legal right to use the roads. I look for them too. I walk around town and even go shopping while wearing my "<bicycle symbol> MAY USE FULL LANE" t-shirt and almost nobody ever asks me about it and the very few that have asked did so out of pure curiosity. They didn't know but they also didn't presume to know otherwise which is what I had expected to find but didn't.
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I'm very familiar with the roads that cyclist was on. I'm kinda surprised of the road rage incident around there, people are laid back in our part of the woods. But I'm not sure the charges are going to stick even with the video.
1) No video of what happened right before the incident is public. It's possible the police do have it. Or it's possible the cyclist edited it out. If the cyclist edited it out, I guarantee you the defense is going to pounce on this.
2) The cyclist has a prior conviction for pulling a gun on a car in another state on another road rage incident. he was charged with going too slow (what kind of a charge is that) and brandishing a firearm 10-10-2009 Frederick County Virginia. Local newspaper pointed this out.
1) No video of what happened right before the incident is public. It's possible the police do have it. Or it's possible the cyclist edited it out. If the cyclist edited it out, I guarantee you the defense is going to pounce on this.
2) The cyclist has a prior conviction for pulling a gun on a car in another state on another road rage incident. he was charged with going too slow (what kind of a charge is that) and brandishing a firearm 10-10-2009 Frederick County Virginia. Local newspaper pointed this out.
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I'm very familiar with the roads that cyclist was on. I'm kinda surprised of the road rage incident around there, people are laid back in our part of the woods. But I'm not sure the charges are going to stick even with the video.
1) No video of what happened right before the incident is public. It's possible the police do have it. Or it's possible the cyclist edited it out. If the cyclist edited it out, I guarantee you the defense is going to pounce on this.
2) The cyclist has a prior conviction for pulling a gun on a car in another state on another road rage incident. he was charged with going too slow (what kind of a charge is that) and brandishing a firearm 10-10-2009 Frederick County Virginia. Local newspaper pointed this out.
1) No video of what happened right before the incident is public. It's possible the police do have it. Or it's possible the cyclist edited it out. If the cyclist edited it out, I guarantee you the defense is going to pounce on this.
2) The cyclist has a prior conviction for pulling a gun on a car in another state on another road rage incident. he was charged with going too slow (what kind of a charge is that) and brandishing a firearm 10-10-2009 Frederick County Virginia. Local newspaper pointed this out.
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Hey, if what happened is what the video shows, and nothing more the guys deserves to be found guilty.
IF...and let's just say the car rode by him close and he flipped him the bird or pounded on his car.. then the car stopped, got into an argument, then got too close to the cyclist... That's why I think this case will probably be dismissed. I feel bad for the cyclist, no question, especially since two days later he got hit and had his bike totaled by a uninsured driver who I think fled from the scene.
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The victim isn't on trial. But if the victim testifies, his credibility is...that's the point of cross-examination. And of course this won't help his credibility.
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The victim shouldn't be on trial. But a good defense lawyer will make sure the victim IS on trial and that the victim has a history of confrontations . And 12 jurors to boot..
Hey, if what happened is what the video shows, and nothing more the guys deserves to be found guilty.
IF...and let's just say the car rode by him close and he flipped him the bird or pounded on his car.. then the car stopped, got into an argument, then got too close to the cyclist... That's why I think this case will probably be dismissed. I feel bad for the cyclist, no question, especially since two days later he got hit and had his bike totaled by a uninsured driver who I think fled from the scene.
Hey, if what happened is what the video shows, and nothing more the guys deserves to be found guilty.
IF...and let's just say the car rode by him close and he flipped him the bird or pounded on his car.. then the car stopped, got into an argument, then got too close to the cyclist... That's why I think this case will probably be dismissed. I feel bad for the cyclist, no question, especially since two days later he got hit and had his bike totaled by a uninsured driver who I think fled from the scene.
Agreed, if things have unfolded as the victim says the driver needs to pay to the fullest extent possible under the law. Other than appeal if things don't go the way that the victim feels that it should is there any civil remedy?
It shouldn't matter if the car passed close and the victim flipped him off or slapped the car. That's really tough, I'm guessing that he doesn't have either homeowners or renters insurance?
Does he have to testify?
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Defense may be prevented from even bringing it up if the judge decides it has no bearing with this case.
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Can I suggest this version instead?
https://cgi.ebay.com/808HD-11-HD-DV-K...item2564420a4a
Video quality is leaps and bounds above the standard #3 or #8.
https://cgi.ebay.com/808HD-11-HD-DV-K...item2564420a4a
Video quality is leaps and bounds above the standard #3 or #8.
How do you mount it on the helmet? It isn't what I pictured for use on a bike, but if it's cheap and gets the job done...I might get two and place one on the rear. How much running time does it have? Does "50 min close and continue" mean it records about 50 min, and then records over itself?
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Outside of the occasional on road harasser or internet message boards, I have a really hard time finding people who believe that bicyclists don't have a legal right to use the roads. I look for them too. I walk around town and even go shopping while wearing my "<bicycle symbol> MAY USE FULL LANE" t-shirt and almost nobody ever asks me about it and the very few that have asked did so out of pure curiosity. They didn't know but they also didn't presume to know otherwise which is what I had expected to find but didn't.
Around the DC-Metro region, if you go on the roads, outside of suburbia, you will find roads that are not kind to cyclists.
A two-lane blacktop with a 40mph speed limit, and no shoulder, outside of suburbia concerns me.
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Except for Poolesville. Aahhhh, cycling satisfaction. My mom mentioned some article that had Sugarloaf as one of the top ten road rides in the nation. Skyline Drive was another.
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But 75% of those hate the idea of doing so. Really, "hate" is not too strong.
On the one hand they get it - on the other they resent the cyclist for it. Being so conflicted, there are bound to be "issues."
I suspect this is pretty much the same all over the U.S.
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So it's a Catch-22 situation. If he testifies he opens himself up to being crossed examined by the defense. And if he doesn't basically his video doesn't get interpreted the right way.
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https://www.ecovelo.info/2011/08/02/nothing-to-fear/
Activity Fatalities Per Million Hours
Living (all causes of death) 1.53
Bicycling .26
Activity Fatalities Per Million Hours
Living (all causes of death) 1.53
Bicycling .26