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View Poll Results: Helmet wearing habits?
I've never worn a bike helmet 178 10.66%
I used to wear a helmet, but have stopped 94 5.63%
I've always worn a helmet 648 38.80%
I didn't wear a helmet, but now do 408 24.43%
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Old 06-13-14, 05:23 AM   #7976
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If you move from the Netherlands to the US you have to get a license too if you migrate here. LOL, that was a great comment you made!!! The USA doesn't just throw an American drivers license at you just because you puff out your chest and proclaim you're from the Netherlands!!! LOL!!!!! By the way, no one can be learned anything, they are taught, something you didn't learn in your English classes...but you're doing pretty good with most English here. Moving right along.
Dude, you are not the person to call people out for spelling mistakes. You should be a native speaker but your grammar and spelling are not good enough to call people out on. Furthermore attacking someone's grammar or spelling is a low blow signifying a desperate attack before defeat. This is know in the lore of the internet.

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Old 06-13-14, 05:38 AM   #7977
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Well Said. Might I add that I for one, prefer Freedom of Choice over socialist protectionism.
This always interests me greatly! How does the average american have more freedoms than the average European. Just mention a few things if you will.
'Cause to me it seems Europe actually has a lot more freedom than the states in all aspects of life.

I have the emphasize that freedom can be considered by either in the terms of Hobbes's "State of Nature" (European approach) or the extremely naive "Noble Savage" by Rousseau.
Basically can freedom better be obtained in a world of anarchy or order?

Gosh, I got to get the rights for P&R
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Dude, you are not the person to call people out for spelling mistakes. You should be a native speaker but your grammar and spelling are not good enough to call people out on. Furthermore attacking someone's grammar or spelling is a low blow signifying a desperate attack before defeat. This is know in the lore of the internet.
You meant "known", right?
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Old 06-13-14, 06:18 AM   #7979
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You meant "known", right?
Well, I'm not a native so I'm allowed a few mistakes.
And that is what I meant actually. Missed a letter
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Old 06-13-14, 07:04 AM   #7980
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This thread is not about spelling. It is about the safety of wearing a helmet.
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Old 06-13-14, 07:59 AM   #7981
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wp

It is off subject. Cars have their own safety devices, seatbelts and air bags. The safety device for cyclist is a helmet.

I am not for MLHs. But with all the nanny state fools we have in this country, I wouldnt put it past them to require bikes to be outfitted with air bags. Wont the weight weenies go nutz over that???
Bikes with airbags is great idea. But for upright bikes the bag would have to mounted in such a way that it would encase the rider completely in the bag.

I often thought that car manufactures got the air bag thing wrong anyways, the bags should be on the outside of the car and not on the inside thus protecting the exterior of the car more from impact damage possibility saving millions a year on body damage. Make the exterior bag react by sensors just before impact and make it really strong so the effect be be similar to a superball...the cars would just bounce off each other. Boing.
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Old 06-13-14, 08:00 AM   #7982
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You commuted 68 miles, Oh Boy! or BFD! since it is totally irrelevant.
Bicycle commuting is the subject; NOT how far people commute to Los Angeles or anyplace else by any other mode.
As is typical with you...you missed the point.
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Old 06-13-14, 11:03 AM   #7983
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This always interests me greatly! How does the average american have more freedoms than the average European. Just mention a few things if you will.
'Cause to me it seems Europe actually has a lot more freedom than the states in all aspects of life.

I have the emphasize that freedom can be considered by either in the terms of Hobbes's "State of Nature" (European approach) or the extremely naive "Noble Savage" by Rousseau.
Basically can freedom better be obtained in a world of anarchy or order?

Gosh, I got to get the rights for P&R
Don't Lecture me about freedoms. I have shed my blood in defense of this country and it's freedoms.

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Old 06-13-14, 11:16 AM   #7984
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Last week, while I was euthanizing my grandmother's wife with an overdose of marijuana, I wondered for a moment, whether American Freedom isn't a bit overrated. I hypothesized that maybe many Americans are believing they're super-free, because a significant part of the population is dumbed down enough to mindlessly swallow any propaganda that is spoon-fed to them. Especially the kind of propaganda that contains intimidating big words they don't really understand when referring to non-Americans. Words like, I don't know, "socialist" and "protectionism" for example.

Anyway, from what I know of it, there's is no difference in freedom of choice for transportation between the US and NL. There seems to be a difference in options to choose from, though, with NL offering the best and most extensive assortment of transport options. There's very good car, bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure, public transport is excellent, featuring trains, buses, trams, and metros. There's also lots of waterways, which I admit, is mostly a geographical bonus, and we even got them sky-planes.
I could care less what goes on in the big cities! I will Never be living there. Packed in like sardines and surrounded by a millions Idiots. No Thanks.
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Old 06-13-14, 11:46 AM   #7985
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Don't Lecture me about freedoms. I have shed my blood in defense of this country and it's freedoms.
Not to mention all the American soldiers who lost their lives (136,000 in Europe alone not to mention the wounded) giving Europe their freedom they enjoy today during World War 2, something a lot of Europeans have forgotten.

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Old 06-13-14, 11:52 AM   #7986
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None of the last three posts have any demonstration of the number of freedoms Americans do or do not have. But this aught to be continued to the P&R section as they have nothing to to with helmets at all.
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Old 06-13-14, 12:07 PM   #7987
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Bikes with airbags is great idea. But for upright bikes the bag would have to mounted in such a way that it would encase the rider completely in the bag.

I often thought that car manufactures got the air bag thing wrong anyways, the bags should be on the outside of the car and not on the inside thus protecting the exterior of the car more from impact damage possibility saving millions a year on body damage. Make the exterior bag react by sensors just before impact and make it really strong so the effect be be similar to a superball...the cars would just bounce off each other. Boing.
I have this mental image of the freeway suddenly turning into a giant billiard table as the cars pop out the air bags and bounce off of each other, chain reaction. It feels wrong to laugh about it but it's a hilarious, true Brownian movement on a giant scale!
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Old 06-13-14, 12:34 PM   #7988
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Old 06-13-14, 02:07 PM   #7989
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Y'all see the new Smith helmets?
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Looks nice. I wish they had a picture showing a person wearing it, though.
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You were talking about seat belts so cut us all some slack ...
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Is that drinking straws welded together? Sure looks a lot like straws to me
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Y'all see the new Smith helmets?
I prefer Smith and Wesson for protection.
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This thread is not about spelling. It is about the safety of wearing a helmet.
...actually, it's about 320 pages now.........................
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Don't Lecture me about freedoms. I have shed my blood in defense of this country and it's freedoms.
...I know just what you mean, pal. I got some shaving cuts when I was served back in '69 that bled like crazy.
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Dude, you are not the person to call people out for spelling mistakes. You should be a native speaker but your grammar and spelling are not good enough to call people out on. Furthermore attacking someone's grammar or spelling is a low blow signifying a desperate attack before defeat. This is know in the lore of the internet.
...also justifiably famous in internet lore is:
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–Rule 16: Any post written to correct editing or proofreading will itself contain an editing or proofreading error. (Muphry’s Law)
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–Rule 9: The passion in an online argument is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available. (Benford’s law of controversy)
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You were talking about seat belts so cut us all some slack ...
I'd rather cut his seat belt just a second before impact, that should give him plenty of slack.
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FYI Im riding with a recumbent group tomorrow. It is a slower group and I will be riding my trike. AND even tho we will be riding slow on a MUP, I will still be wearing my helmet. Better safe than sorry!!!
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I'd rather cut his seat belt just a second before impact, that should give him plenty of slack.
There you go again. Hoping to harm others. Dude, behavior like that is not cool. It's behavior for a five year old
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