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    When the Cop Said Stop

    This guy kept going. My favorite charge: failure to equip his bike with a bell.

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    What could have been just ended up being a routine stop and warning, turned into a legal free for all against the cyclist. Goes to show that LEOs take a dim view on being ignored.

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    It is a criminal offense to not stop when requested to by a police officer.

    There was a similar case here in the UK a while ago,

    Drink-drive ban for father who took toy Barbie car for a spin

    Quote Originally Posted by Daily Mail
    As a means of transportation it left something to be desired in terms of comfort and street cred.

    And when police asked the driver to pull over, the Barbie car, with its top speed of 4mph, was hopeless as a getaway vehicle.

    Paul Hutton, 40, is regretting his impromptu roadtrip after he was arrested for drink-driving when he tried to take the battery- operated child's toy to a friend's house.

    Yesterday he admitted he had been a 'complete twit' after he was banned from driving and given a 12-month conditional discharge by magistrates.

    The 6ft-tall father of four said that an adult needed to 'be quite a contortionist to get in' the 4ft by 2ft white and pink jeep, which is designed for fans of the popular girls' doll.

    'I'm not unhappy with my punishment, just surprised,' he said. 'It needn't have gone to court. Possibly the police arrested me for something to tell the grandchildren.'

    Mr Hutton, a divorcee from Jaywick, in Clacton-on-Sea, Essex, is a former RAF aeronautical engineer who studies electric engineering at the Colchester Institute.

    He took the Barbie car home after finding it abandoned ten years ago and has been tinkering with it ever since.

    About eight months ago he started rebuilding it with his eldest son Simon, 17, who is doing a car mechanics course.

    Modifications to the vehicle - which is aimed at three to five-year-olds and runs on a 12v battery - include adding larger wheels and changing its body colour from pink to white.

    Mr Hutton had been drinking on March 28 when he decided to show the jeep off to a friend who lives just 500 yards away.

    Police spotted him at 9pm with his knees tucked up under his chin ambling along Brooklands Road, which is named after the motor racing circuit.

    He was arrested when he ignored warnings for him to stop and tried to make a very slow getaway. 'The police car came up alongside me and the officer said, "Are you all right there?"' he said. 'When I tried to talk I realised how drunk I was.

    'A lot of burble came out. There was a dispute at first between the officers as to what the legalities of it were. Then they decided I was to be done for drink-driving.

    'I was taken to Clacton police station and breathalysed. I was released at about 5.30am. I really didn't realise I should be doing it.

    'I knew that it was daft but I didn't realise it was a criminal thing to do.'

    Mr Hutton admitted drink-driving on Friday after magistrates in Colchester heard he had 89mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood, more than twice the 35mg limit. He was given a three-year ban because he had received another drink-drive ban within the previous ten years. He was also ordered to pay Ł85 costs.

    Chairman of the bench Neil Munson said: 'This is most unusual. I have never seen the like of it in 15 years on the bench.

    'The vehicle is not even capable of doing the speed of a mobility scooter and could be outrun by a pedestrian.'
    Again, what could have been a simple warning escalated, because somebody thought that they could ignore the police.

    Personally I am pleased that this guy got done - and lets be fair, the list of charges is similar to that a motorist would get in a similar situation - instead of the warning/citation for one misdemeanor/defect - they go out of their way to find every fault with the vehicle.
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    The cyclist had it coming. Riding against traffic at night with no lights and then evades police. I wish police here were as proactive.
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    Geez around where I live cyclists routinely ride the wrong way on one way streets; and very few, maybe 5% of all riders I see at night use lights or reflectors, and cops don't even stop to offer advice not alone a ticket. I slow down when I see a cyclist without lights and yell out "GET A LIGHT", I care more then the cops!

    When I was a teenager and into my earlier 20's the saying was around the guys I hung out with was: "Red light in front means stop, red light behind means go like hell!" Maybe the cyclist was practicing that? I got away from a cop on a road bike once, I stopped for a red light, saw no traffic so I went, and a cop sitting in a tree'd covered area saw me and came out with his car and got behind me and bleeped his siren. I looked behind me and said crap, right about that time I saw a dirt path off the road...so off the road I went and down the path to financial freedom from a ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rekmeyata View Post
    ...so off the road I went and down the path to financial freedom from a ticket.
    I came across a very slow light and no traffic as well, after waiting some considerable time, I went through the red light and lo and behold was an LEO waiting some distance away. Instead of running, I stopped, received a warning (LEO probably knew that the signal light was faulty), and we ended up talking about my newer motorcycle I happen to be riding.

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    That barbie car thing is funny... but when people who kill cyclists with doors get just a fine, it seems silly to take licenses away for driving pow-pow-powerwheels in ANY condition. It should have been a public drunkenness charge. I'd say that you could do less damage in a powerwheels car than on foot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson249 View Post
    The cyclist had it coming. Riding against traffic at night with no lights and then evades police. I wish police here were as proactive.
    Yes the cyclist deserved being arrested, but the cops look foolish for throwing the bell charge on top of it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CB HI View Post
    Yes the cyclist deserved being arrested, but the cops look foolish for throwing the bell charge on top of it all.
    Good to see an example of the police doing their job and not harrassing law-abiding cyclists. It does remind me of 'The Titfield Thunderbolt', a 1950's comedy film. Two guys get drunk and steal a steam locomotive, driving off with it through the town. They are later charged with a long list of minor offenses, such as 'driving an unlicensed vehicle on the road', 'failing to obey a traffic sign', 'defective tyres' and other such nonsense.
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    The cyclist was a jerk and danger to himself and motorists. I absolutely HATE wrong way cyclists. They scare me when I approach them and there's oncoming traffic. I don't want to pass them too closely, but if there's a line of cars upcoming, unless I come to a complete halt I end up passing too closely. I don't know why wrong way rider don't understand the reality of that situation.

    Riding the wrong way AT NIGHT with no lights? The cop was fully correct to stop him. The "no bell" charge was an ******* charge for being a jerk to the cop. If he would have stopped, a warning is the most he likely would have received.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwinnrider View Post
    Riding the wrong way AT NIGHT with no lights? The cop was fully correct to stop him. The "no bell" charge was an ******* charge for being a jerk to the cop. If he would have stopped, a warning is the most he likely would have received.
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    i'm familiar with rt-22 in NJ. it's NOT a road to be on going the wrong way without lights. the guy's lucky he got arrested, rather than being executed by a motor-vehicle. like most anyplace, cops in that part of NJ will go out of their way to find charges if you piss them off... and not stopping for a cop is a very reliable way to piss them off.

    only FSM knows if he would've gotten a ticket or a verbal warning if he'd stopped... but he almost certainly would've received no more than one ticket and a few warnings if he'd stopped... and not been arrested.

    i'm really glad when cops treat these idiots seriously, because it's idiots like this that just beg to get hit by a car, and the headline always reads "BICYCLIST HIT BY CAR", never "JACKASS NINJA ON A BIKE RIDING THE WRONG WAY ON HWY HIT BY CAR."
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    Quote Originally Posted by smasha View Post
    only FSM knows if he would've gotten a ticket or a verbal warning if he'd stopped... but he almost certainly would've received no more than one ticket and a few warnings if he'd stopped... and not been arrested.

    i'm really glad when cops treat these idiots seriously,
    Cops just wanted to search him for drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CB HI View Post
    Cops just wanted to search him for drugs.
    +1!

    That's exactly what they do here where I live. I can't tell you how often I read the police blotter and it's pretty obvious they only pulled someone over for a minor vehicle flaw (headlight out, broken brake light, crack in windshield, etc.) so they could have reason to find probable cause for searching the vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB HI View Post
    Cops just wanted to search him for drugs.
    after he ran, sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smasha View Post
    after he ran, sure.
    Cops stop lots of people on bikes, walking or driving on the most minor things just to justify an otherwise illegal stop, in hopes of getting a shaky consent to search.

    "If you have nothing to hide, then you will not mind if we look, right."
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    Quote Originally Posted by CB HI View Post
    Cops stop lots of people on bikes, walking or driving on the most minor things just to justify an otherwise illegal stop, in hopes of getting a shaky consent to search.
    riding on rt-22 at night, with no lights, going the wrong way is NOT a "minor thing".

    in the US, i think the biggest variable there is skin color. time of day/night, location, fashion, etc also influence that. also recent reports of suspicious or criminal activity, and if something is obviously out of place or unsafe... like riding the wrong way on a high-speed highway, or riding at night with no lights: they'd stop a white "fred" just as quickly for that as they would anyone else.

    10-20 years ago, i think in TX, it made the news when city cops were giving warnings to whites for riding their bikes on the sidewalk, while arresting blacks for the same offense. all in the name of "police discretion".
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