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Old 11-17-11, 10:55 AM   #1
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For those who ride with cameras-reactions from people who see the camera?

I have had several people notice the ContourHD on my helmet during my rides. Most encounters are positive, but two of them were negative and one was downright creepy.

The first incident was not captured on video because it happened after my ride and I had stopped recording. I was approached by a young man who claimed to be in the military. He asked if that was a camera I had on my helmet. When I said yes, he asked if it was recording. When I said no, he said that if it had been recording he would need my name, address, and phone number because he "could not be documented" because it would be hazardous to his safety. The gory details of that encounter are in this thread here on BF.

I am a female cyclist, and I can only imagine what that guy could have done to me had I been dumb enough to give him the info he wanted. Instead, I basically told him to go pound sand.

Yesterday I stopped to hook up my Dinotte to its battery pack, and a pedestrian took a little too much interest in the ContourHD and accused me of being paranoid. This time the camera was recording though.

The song snippets at the beginning and end of the video sum up my opinion of him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx1WBnhSJ8Q

Here's a more positive reaction from a runner who noticed the camera and liked it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AYkO9GTw6E

Have any of you ever had a negative or positive encounter with someone who noticed the camera on your bike or helmet? Any tips on good comebacks to the negative nellies out there?
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I don't have one yet, but I've wondered how people would respond to finding out they're on camera. I think "smile for the camera" would make a great saying for the back of a jersey.
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Just about anything is capable of "setting off" the unstable among us. You can either live your life in fear of those incidents, or smile and live as you chose... Just avoid confrontations with the unstable... smile, agree, all the while moving away...
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I live in an urban area, most folks are used to cameras;
traffic cams, security cams from parking lots, stores,
restaurants, bldg. exteriors/lobbies, etc.

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My cameras are attached to my bike's frame, the portions of the frame's color make the cameras blend in, and one really has to look to see them.

The only people that I know of that noticed my cameras were other cyclists at a local forum, the bike was parked, the cyclists had to do a double take to see them, and curiosity was their only reaction.
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Retired military here. No military member would have made the claims that guy made.

Hade a guy once claim to be a cop and threaten to get out of his truck and arrest me (he had a security guard badge embroidered on his polo shirt), I demanded he show me his police ID. His jaw dropped and he sped away.

Had two people that wanted to continue road rag or fight until I pointed out cam. They both shut up and ran.
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My cameras are attached to my bike's frame, the portions of the frame's color make the cameras blend in, and one really has to look to see them.
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I have a contour roam, attached to the handlebar, and it is rarely noticed or commented upon.
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I have a contour roam, attached to the handlebar, and it is rarely noticed or commented upon.
Where it's mounted, and the design of Roam, people will generally mistake it for a headlight.
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Retired military here. No military member would have made the claims that guy made.
agreed. Had a guy tell us he was a Navy Seal, beat up an NBA player, and had another NBA player take him out to dinner when we were at breakfast the other day. I am guessing he would have come out with some good stories if he saw a helmet cam
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I don't have one yet, but I've wondered how people would respond to finding out they're on camera. I think "smile for the camera" would make a great saying for the back of a jersey.
I don't have a helmet camera yet, myself. But when I do manage to get one from GoPro(I already looked at Contour and didn't like their cameras), I will get the chest harness instead the extra weight added to my bike helmet.
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808s are super tiny, so most people don't notice mine even when they're standing right in front of me.
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I'm in the military and frequently work with "those guys"...and none of them would make the statement that mutt did...
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808s are super tiny, so most people don't notice mine even when they're standing right in front of me.
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808 works VERY well for me, attached with velcro to the top of my helmet. Total cost $19.95.
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808s are super tiny, so most people don't notice mine even when they're standing right in front of me.
I didn't even know what you were talking about. In case I'm not alone here is a good review ...

http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2011/8/...ra-review.html

What do you about longer rides? (The review says that battery lasts ~90 minutes but you can extend it with the AA battery for another 60).

EDIT

I went to EBay and this appears to be the same camera in the review. This reports 100-120 minutes of use.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Latest-11-HD...#ht_1670wt_954
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I'm in the military and frequently work with "those guys"...and none of them would make the statement that mutt did...
So what do "those guys" do when they go to the store/mall/airport with the everpresent security cameras? big Brother isn't the only one watching them and the rest of us.
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Retired military here. No military member would have made the claims that guy made.

Hade a guy once claim to be a cop and threaten to get out of his truck and arrest me (he had a security guard badge embroidered on his polo shirt), I demanded he show me his police ID. His jaw dropped and he sped away.

Had two people that wanted to continue road rag or fight until I pointed out cam. They both shut up and ran.
Falsely claiming to be military seems to be a common tactic for con artists and other criminals these days, probably because the military ranks as one of the more respected institutions we have. My guess is that those guys hassling the poster about the camera were drug dealers or otherwise up to something, and nervous about being placed in the area potentially. Doesn't meth make people weirdly paranoid?
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I will definitely be getting a camera in the future. I honestly don't care what people think or say, I have a right to use it, and I will... I could have really used it recently.

Last year's model of the Contour HD (non-GPS) is on sale for $120. I will probably pick one up soon.
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I didn't even know what you were talking about. In case I'm not alone here is a good review ...

http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2011/8/...ra-review.html

What do you about longer rides? (The review says that battery lasts ~90 minutes but you can extend it with the AA battery for another 60).

EDIT

I went to EBay and this appears to be the same camera in the review. This reports 100-120 minutes of use.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Latest-11-HD...#ht_1670wt_954
Some of the eBay sellers sell the camera with an attached battery pack/power supply for about $55 - I bought the same battery pack on dealextreme for $8:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-rec...pattern-103556 (don't ask, I couldn't find the one I bought, but this one is identical).

Paired with a 16gig microSD card, the cameras last about 4 hours each.
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I didn't even know what you were talking about. In case I'm not alone here is a good review ...

http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2011/8/...ra-review.html

What do you about longer rides? (The review says that battery lasts ~90 minutes but you can extend it with the AA battery for another 60).

EDIT

I went to EBay and this appears to be the same camera in the review. This reports 100-120 minutes of use.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Latest-11-HD...#ht_1670wt_954
My 808 #11 only lasted about 46-60 min. When the battery would die it would make the video it was currently recording not usable. I ended up bricking it after flashing my firmware to fix that issue. Then just ended up buying a ContourROAM. I've gotten close to 3 hours and it was still going, which I think is around its limits.

The other day I had 3 different people comment on it. All friendly, "hey is that a camera, cool" Never had any bad responses.. so far.
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So what do "those guys" do when they go to the store/mall/airport with the everpresent security cameras? big Brother isn't the only one watching them and the rest of us.
I have to say that privacy concerns were somewhat lower for me when I was on active duty. I felt like my behavior should stand up to extra scrutiny when I was in public. In general, I'm not a big fan of indiscriminate distribution of security cameras like they have in the U.K., but I hardly see how filming police or military is something we should have a problem with.
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Some of the eBay sellers sell the camera with an attached battery pack/power supply for about $55 - I bought the same battery pack on dealextreme for $8:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-rec...pattern-103556 (don't ask, I couldn't find the one I bought, but this one is identical).

Paired with a 16gig microSD card, the cameras last about 4 hours each.
I was about to write a dirty joke with another word for kitty but decided against it.

For $60-70 it has a lot of appeal. Especially since I want to keep my helmet as light as possible. Below is the "kit" from the same seller.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HD-DV-Key-Ch...ht_7108wt_1626
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Falsely claiming to be military seems to be a common tactic for con artists and other criminals these days, probably because the military ranks as one of the more respected institutions we have. My guess is that those guys hassling the poster about the camera were drug dealers or otherwise up to something, and nervous about being placed in the area potentially. Doesn't meth make people weirdly paranoid?
You got that one right.
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For $60-70 it has a lot of appeal. Especially since I want to keep my helmet as light as possible. Below is the "kit" from the same seller.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HD-DV-Key-Ch...ht_7108wt_1626
That one has me a little concerned. I would not want to buy one from a foreign country. Unless it was also made in the U.S.
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I have had several people notice the ContourHD on my helmet during my rides. Most encounters are positive, but two of them were negative and one was downright creepy.

The first incident was not captured on video because it happened after my ride and I had stopped recording. I was approached by a young man who claimed to be in the military. He asked if that was a camera I had on my helmet. When I said yes, he asked if it was recording. When I said no, he said that if it had been recording he would need my name, address, and phone number because he "could not be documented" because it would be hazardous to his safety. The gory details of that encounter are in this thread here on BF.

I am a female cyclist, and I can only imagine what that guy could have done to me had I been dumb enough to give him the info he wanted. Instead, I basically told him to go pound sand.

Yesterday I stopped to hook up my Dinotte to its battery pack, and a pedestrian took a little too much interest in the ContourHD and accused me of being paranoid. This time the camera was recording though.

The song snippets at the beginning and end of the video sum up my opinion of him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx1WBnhSJ8Q

Here's a more positive reaction from a runner who noticed the camera and liked it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AYkO9GTw6E

Have any of you ever had a negative or positive encounter with someone who noticed the camera on your bike or helmet? Any tips on good comebacks to the negative nellies out there?
I've had my headlight mistaken for a camera. But so far I haven't had any negative encounters because of it.
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I have had several people notice the ContourHD on my helmet during my rides. Most encounters are positive, but two of them were negative and one was downright creepy.

The first incident was not captured on video because it happened after my ride and I had stopped recording. I was approached by a young man who claimed to be in the military. He asked if that was a camera I had on my helmet. When I said yes, he asked if it was recording. When I said no, he said that if it had been recording he would need my name, address, and phone number because he "could not be documented" because it would be hazardous to his safety. The gory details of that encounter are in this thread here on BF.

I am a female cyclist, and I can only imagine what that guy could have done to me had I been dumb enough to give him the info he wanted. Instead, I basically told him to go pound sand.

Yesterday I stopped to hook up my Dinotte to its battery pack, and a pedestrian took a little too much interest in the ContourHD and accused me of being paranoid. This time the camera was recording though.

The song snippets at the beginning and end of the video sum up my opinion of him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx1WBnhSJ8Q

Here's a more positive reaction from a runner who noticed the camera and liked it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AYkO9GTw6E

Have any of you ever had a negative or positive encounter with someone who noticed the camera on your bike or helmet? Any tips on good comebacks to the negative nellies out there?
I would have been tempted to tell the clown in the first vid to MYOB before I ended up with a video of him getting his butt kicked.
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